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    In medieval times Serb usually meant all most of South Slavs. It's not weird if some of the tribes of those collective name "Serbs" become a nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    Yes we expelled all Muslims from there in Western Bosnia, and they are Bosniaks today, it just proves that your identity is fully based just on religion.
    Indeed, but reallity is that in medieval times was developing the independent Bosnian nation which was stopped by Ottomans. Then Ottomans settled a lot of islamized Serbs from Serbia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    In medieval times Serb usually meant all most of South Slavs. It's not weird if some of the tribes of those collective name "Serbs" become a nation.
    No, but its weird when descendants of those Serb tribes hate and deny everything Serbian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    What does Smederevo,Uzice and Montenegro have to do with Bosnia and Bosniaks?
    Yes we expelled all Muslims from there in Western Bosnia, and they are Bosniaks today, it just proves that your identity is fully based just on religion.
    I don’t deny that fact

    My identity is based on religion just as Serbian is.

    Smederevo and Uzice were predominantly Muslim cities, they were of course Serbs who were prosecuted by SPC


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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    No, but its weird when descendants of those Serb tribes hate and deny everything Serbian.
    It wasn't case before last war in Bosnia. You can not expect that people of Sarajevo, for example, would like Serbs while they were bombing them through 4 years constantly. You hate USA and NATO becouse of 78 days bombing, imagine if 4 years you are surviving granades from mountain Trebević.

    I didn't survive war so i don't have any feelings, but people here are full of bad experiences with Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Indeed, but reallity is that in medieval times was developing the independent Bosnian nation which was stopped by Ottomans. Then Ottomans settled a lot of islamized Serbs from Serbia.
    Serbian identity could clearly be seen in Kingdom of Bosnia as well. As for the future we can never surely know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    Serbian identity could clearly be seen in Kingdom of Bosnia as well. As for the future we can never surely know.
    We can. Bosnian leaders greatly fought for Kingdom, even against the Serbia and any other neighbour countries. The identity of this nation was clearly developing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    "aritificial". Why are you insulting? In medieval times Bosnia was independent state with independent nation which would be established if Ottomans didn't conquer Bosnia.
    Decko jel ti razumes sta ja govorim? Da si rodjen pre 25+ godina znao bi da bi te svi u Jugoslaviji zvali Musliman a ne Bosnjak. To ti govorim, "Bosnjak" je savremeni politicki termin.
    Ali ok ja postujem ako hocete sad tako da sebe zovete, ok, nema problema.

    A onda dodje Turcin ovaj Bori da kaze kako su neki "Bosnjaci" postojali pre 500 godina, lupeta gluposti. Postojali su Bosanci a ne Bosnjaci.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    It wasn't case before last war in Bosnia. You can not expect that people of Sarajevo, for example, would like Serbs while they were bombing them through 4 years constantly. You hate USA and NATO becouse of 78 days bombing, imagine if 4 years you are surviving granades from mountain Trebević.

    I didn't survive war so i don't have any feelings, but people here are full of bad experiences with Serbs.
    I completely understand that, and i dont expect any Bosniak to love Serbia but also you cant expect Bosnian Serbs to love this Bosnia.
    Also we cant mix our feelings in history and try to change it or deny it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Decko jel ti razumes sta ja govorim? Da si rodjen pre 25+ godina znao bi da bi te svi u Jugoslaviji zvali Musliman a ne Bosnjak. To ti govorim, "Bosnjak" je savremeni politicki termin.
    Ali ok ja postujem ako hocete sad tako da sebe zovete, ok, nema problema.

    A onda dodje Turcin ovaj Bori da kaze kako su neki "Bosnjaci" postojali pre 500 godina, lupeta gluposti. Postojali su Bosanci a ne Bosnjaci.
    Muslimani su postali Bošnjaci ne zato što su željeli neku svoju naciju iz želje da još više fragmentuju Balkan, nego zato što ste vi pravoslavci muslimane u Srbiji i u Bosni držali ko cigane.

    Muslimani u buregdžinice i pitare, a Pravoslavci rukovodioci i generali.

    Pa niste vi pametniji od nas niti sposobniji da mi nemamo ravnopravan status.

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