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    Default How much Anglo-Saxon vs Celtic ancestry does each part of England have?

    By this i don't mean to imply there is such a thing as 'genetically Celtic' but what I mean is this:

    in different parts of England, what percentage "native" Brittonic are they versus incoming Germanic from the continent?

    This is all I could find but the labels make no sense. What does 'British' mean here?

    https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/i...sh-as-we-think

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    I1 = Germanic input, as it's the only true Germanic haplogroup and R1 "Germans" are just linguistically Germanized, but not truly German ethnically.

    It's from 8-20%, depending on the part of Britain. It's 6% in Ireland, which shows Irish are mostly pure.


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    Is phenotype also related to areas with more native Britton and Germanic imput? For example, an English person with blonde hair and Nordid features would have more Germanic ancestry than Celtic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    I1 = Germanic input, as it's the only true Germanic haplogroup and R1 "Germans" are just linguistically Germanized, but not truly German ethnically.

    It's from 8-20%, depending on the part of Britain. It's 6% in Ireland, which shows Irish are mostly pure.

    I1 wasn't Germanic until the R1 'Germanicanized' them

    Nordisch-Westisch or Westisch mit Nordische einschlag
    In other words: Atlantid type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Is phenotype also related to areas with more native Britton and Germanic imput? For example, an English person with blonde hair and Nordid features would have more Germanic ancestry than Celtic?
    good question, I have yet to find out how much Germanic input DNA I have but have been classified 'Nordid', I'm guessing I have around 80% Keltic and 20% Germanic..

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    Northern Europe PCA by Davidski for my mum (black cross), from the West Midlands.

    Roughly equidistant to ancient Britons and ancient Anglo-Saxons.

    This is why I'm skeptical of the lower end figures for Germanic input (20-30% etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Ketch View Post
    Northern Europe PCA by Davidski for my mum (black cross), from the West Midlands.

    Roughly equidistant to ancient Britons and ancient Anglo-Saxons.

    This is why I'm skeptical of the lower end figures for Germanic input (20-30% etc).

    I always thought it is 50-50 in eastern England, and more British everywhere else.

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    Exactly what separates Irish Celtics from French Celtics I've always wondered

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    East Anglia and East England is Germany
    Scotland, Wales, Devon, Cumbria, Southwest and Cornwall are Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I always thought it is 50-50 in eastern England, and more British everywhere else.
    It maybe more in some Eastern parts, but as you know in the POBI study the 'SEE' cluster spans much of England, up into the Midlands as well.
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