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    Original white Albanian dress (it is somehow similar to the Greeks) , Albanians that bordered the slavic peoples wore another dress which i will be showing below.


    Note that the dress in this pic is much more modern, the really early dresses were most probably much more simple.

    Here is also a pic for the Northern part(on the right) excluding the Algerian veil ofc. You can also find these style of dresses on central europe too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HERK View Post
    Original white Albanian dress (it is somehow similar to the Greeks) , Albanians that bordered the slavic peoples wore prety much the same national dress they do today but without the Plis/Qeleshe or the White Veil which definitely comes from Algeria.
    [IMG]http://www.albanianhistory.net/1878_Blunt/AH1878_3cartwright_gr.jpg[/MG]

    Note that the dress in this pic is much more modern, the really early dresses were most probably much more simple.

    Here is also a pic for the Northern part(on the right) excluding the Algerian veil. You can also find these style of dresses on central europe too.
    [IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/62/8c/73628cbc15e1643ea145b07860825843.jpg[/IG]
    Nah it wasn't really similar to the Greeks apart from the Jelek and Fustanella as we also wore the Tirq btw the guy in that pic you showed is wearing a Fez which is MENA , we always wore the Plis it is derived from Illyrians in us and was even worn by ancient Greeks, the veil is the only thing that possible is MENA in origin. You're obsessed with Algerians lol .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Nah it wasn't really similar to the Greeks apart from the Jelek and Fustanella as we also wore the Tirq btw the guy in that pic you showed is wearing a Fez which is MENA , we always wore the Plis it is derived from Illyrians in us and was even worn by ancient Greeks, the veil is the only thing that possible is MENA in origin. You're obsessed with Algerians lol .
    I tried to find a picture without that hat but i couldn't, wearing hats in ancient europe wasnt a thing you do my friend, let alone a hat which takes so much time to make and makes you look like an extra terrestrial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HERK View Post
    I tried to find a picture without that hat but i couldn't, wearing hats in ancient europe wasnt a thing you do my friend, let alone a hat which takes so much time to make and makes you look like an extra terrestrial.
    O Shqipe, the Plis was worn by the Greeks this is a fact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qeleshe. Nigga u trolling
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    Just a supposition, Albania is a very mountainous area, in winter can be very cold, maybe they used to wear the turban is this way to cover their face during winter snow storms. In the same way Tuaregs use it to cover their faces during sand storms.
    Montenegro is also very mountainous area but Montenegrin have traditional caps that look like this:



    and in cold weather it is covered with simple scarf like this ( example image is from one well known movie)





    so there are obviously other ways to cover from cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HERK View Post
    You can also find these style of dresses on central europe too.
    Where exactly?

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    What is the story and origin of the Qeleshe? I bought one in Krujë right before I walked up to Skanderbeg's castle and found it a good gesture to don it while visiting the castle of this great Albanian hero and this important historical/ethnographical site:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Why northern Albanian traditional dressing includes something basically the same as turbans that Beduines or Berbers from Northern Africa have? It is not seen anywhere in Europe outside of Albania.

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    This is serious question so I would like to read serious answers if possible, thanks.
    Albanians in eastern and northern prokletije wear this. Its a shroud used for burials. All muslims are buried washed and naked in such a shroud. But albanians of this area believe it is very important that they carry their shroud with them incase they died unexpectedly. This may be a muslim tradition, but it has spilled over to our christian catholics also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean-Jobst View Post
    What is the story and origin of the Qeleshe? I bought one in Krujë right before I walked up to Skanderbeg's castle and found it a good gesture to don it while visiting the castle of this great Albanian hero and this important historical/ethnographical site:

    13872746_10206553304982658_4145198253569754496_n.jpg

    13872746_10206553305102661_2050641587286794583_n.jpg

    13901435_10206553363344117_7006643456530696539_n.jpg
    Its name is plis, qeleshe is a deformed variant worn by tosks. Plis is basically a modern pilos. Pilos was a hat that free men wore in ancient times so that they wouldnt be confused with unfree slaves. Odysseus is always portraid wearing a pilos.

    All Albanian men in the north wore this hat as late as 1950's. It has waned off since then and today you will only see elderly men wearing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    E ta shkerdheft nanen 'prokletije' ty.
    Bonu bur dhe mos em shaj me pseudonym.

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