Mongol conquest of the Caucasus, Russia and Europe

[StonyArabia]

[Bobby Martnen]

The Mongols sure were ferocious.

[Böri]

At Parwan battle, prior to this expedition by Subutay and Jebe, Jalaladdin Khwarezmshah (Turkic Menburnu dynasty ruling Iranic masses) defeated the Mongol army in Afghanistan in a pitched battle. Half of Jalaladdin's army was Turkmen and the other half (30k) were local Pashtuns. A white horse was taken from killed Mongol commander, a relative of Jalaladdin and the leader of the Afghans argued for horse as each wanted it.
Jalaladdin gave it to his relative, the Pashtun was pissed and took his 30k men and left.
Later, Jalaladdin bravely fought Mongols near Indus river and almost defeating Genghis Khan however he lost.

Stupid Pashtuns, they left Jalaladdin alone but later when Mongols started to seize Afghanistan they paid a terrible price which translated in massacre of millions of Iranics by Mongol tumens.
Pashtuns just like all central asian Iranians were settled farmers.
Turkmen civilian population fled to Turkey (Seljuk of Rum) or to the highlands of Afghanistan where they avoided Mongol genocide.

[Yaglakar]

These series are highly inaccurate, simplified so the layman assimilates information better. The initial Ghengis Khan's western campaign consisted 50,000 Mongols (many of whom were mongolized Turkic speaking recruits like the Naimans) + 10,000 Uighur Idiquts and around 6,000 Karluks.


Chris Peers. 2015. Genghis Khan and the Mongol War Machine. Pen and Sword. pages 119-120

They were essentially fighting against their own kinsmen.

Subsequent invasions of Caucasus and Eastern Europe almost entirely consisted of Turkic troops in most cases under Mongol commanders.



Anoushiravan Ehteshami. From The Gulf To Central Asia: Players In The New Great Game (Arabic & Islamic Studies)

[StonyArabia]

The Mongols sure were ferocious.

The only power that would occupy Russia and crush it hard. The Mongols were like whirlwind and no one was going to stop them. However the people who had opened the gates for them, was none other than the Turko-Persianate the Khawzermeians, because of their Persian arrogance they let the Mongols out and made the Mongol legacy possible.

[Marmara]

The only power that would occupy Russia and crush it hard. The Mongols were like whirlwind and no one was going to stop them. However the people who had opened the gates for them, was none other than the Turko-Persianate the Khawzermeians, because of their Persian arrogance they let the Mongols out and made the Mongol legacy possible.

Mongol legacy didn't survive in Middle-East, somehow. It survived elsewhere.

Except maybe Turkification of Anatolia which Mongols contributed.

[StonyArabia]

Mongol legacy didn't survive in Middle-East, somehow. It survived elsewhere.

Except maybe Turkification of Anatolia which Mongols contributed.

Actually their legacy was the destruction of Baghdad in the Middle East, the golden age of the Arabian civilization crumbled. From there would be no more Arab power and, it lead to the rise of several Islamized Turkic dynasties the most important of these was the Ottomans. Despite this, the Arab civilization continued in North Africa and Iberia. Iraq was totally depopulated and would eventually be re-populated by tribes from the Arabian peninsula after this, this why Iraq was quite nomadic with exception of some localities like Mosul and the shrine cities. From there appeared the Black and White sheep who were Mongol vassals and they eventually would pave way for one of the most destructive empires in the Orient the Safavids who did numerous massacres in Baghdad and Mosul

[Marmara]

Actually their legacy was the destruction of Baghdad in the Middle East, the golden age of the Arabian civilization crumbled. From there would be no more Arab power and, it lead to the rise of several Islamized Turkic dynasties the most important of these was the Ottomans. Despite this, the Arab civilization continued in North Africa and Iberia. Iraq was totally depopulated and would eventually be re-populated by tribes from the Arabian peninsula after this, this why Iraq was quite nomadic with exception of some localities like Mosul and the shrine cities. From there appeared the Black and White sheep who were Mongol vassals and they eventually would pave way for one of the most destructive empires in the Orient the Safavids who did numerous massacres in Baghdad and Mosul

Turkic dynasties were already present. Seljuks, Mamluks, Khwarazmians were all Turkic dynasties.

[StonyArabia]

Turkic dynasties were already present. Seljuks, Mamluks, Khwarazmians were all Turkic dynasties.

Yes but I see them as Turko-Persian, because they were highly influenced by Persianate cultures. The exception to this would be the Mamlukes as they were more Arab culturally . The problem is that the White Sheep and Black sheep were very destructive in Mesopotamia-Iran as well the Caucasus region, they were Mongol vassals, this unlike the Seljuks who were and then resisted. As for the Khwarazmians they were major reason for the letting the Mongols out, and in Persian like arrogance when the Shah had attacked the Mongol envoys. The Black and White sheep period is well known to be one of Iraq's most bloody one and were Mongol vassals, and then they pave way for the Safavids, and they have done many crimes, such as defiling graves of scared individuals like Abu Hanfia. Not to mention that when the Ottomans came and defeated them it was highly celebrated.This is indeed part of the Mongol legacy in the region, and the Arab power and civilization ends, and it lays a Turkic one instead.