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    Default New Bronze Age Iranian sample!

    From Hajji Firuz Tepe very close to the Iraqi and Turkish border.

    Eurogenes K13

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    MLDP K16

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    puntDNAL K13

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    Looks like a mix between Iranian farmer, Steppe with some Anatolian farmer. Very little to no Levantine_N input. Might be ancestor to Anatolian Indo-Europeans?

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    What haplogroup did it belong to? The samples from that region were J2b* and R1b-Z2103 iirc
    23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results

    MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    What haplogroup did it belong to? The samples from that region were J2b* and R1b-Z2103 iirc
    It's not the R1b sample, cause that one was dated much older. But mentioned sample had Steppe input too:

    Hajji_Firuz_ChL_outlier:I2327

    Hajji_Firuz_ChL,46.8
    Seh Gabi_ChL,37.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,13.2
    West_Siberia_N,2.8

    [1] "distance%=2.9719"

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    Was this the 5900-5500 BCE guy? I heard he was M269, so ancestral to European R1b, right? I know there was R1b in East Europe in that same time frame but those guys were M73, so they went extinct. So technically this guy could be ancestral to Yamna Proto Indo-European R1b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    It's not the R1b sample, cause that one was dated much older. But mentioned sample had Steppe input too:

    Hajji_Firuz_ChL_outlier:I2327

    Hajji_Firuz_ChL,46.8
    Seh Gabi_ChL,37.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,13.2
    West_Siberia_N,2.8

    [1] "distance%=2.9719"
    Ah, ok.

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    This person is close to some Balkan Slavic populations. Interesting that modern Iranians are very different to this sample.

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    Post his Dodecad K12b please or share the number with me as an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    Looks like a mix between Iranian farmer, Steppe with some Anatolian farmer. Very little to no Levantine_N input. Might be ancestor to Anatolian Indo-Europeans?
    Was he an Aryan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Was he an Aryan?
    Well I think he most definitely was an Indo-European speaker. But dunno if he was ancestral to Anatolians or Indo-Iranians.

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