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    Quote Originally Posted by MethCat View Post
    That guy looks like he has some significant East Asian/Siberian admixture. Those eyes, that upturned shallow nose and that patchy facial and arm hair, very unlike Iranids. There are some significant East Asian admixture in certain peoples within Iran such as the Turkmen(20% male Mongoloid admixture).

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ishapur_30.JPG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkmens

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Turkmen

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110606...imsmaj3n.alice
    Actually nothing CM to this short beta male


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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Cms mix with Alpines give short face. Real tall CMs have long face
    Or you try to say that CMs look sissies???



    Cms with short alpine faces tend to be rugby players. They're very masculine and beastly in appearance. Who said Cms look like sissies?

    Sure, there are long faced CMS, like the guy you posted. It varies I guess. There are long faced and short faced CMs. But though, I doubt that there are doli CMs.

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    there are only 3 CM members: Eggyolk, Charles Bronson and Dragan Ciobanu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    But though, I doubt that there are doli CMs.
    The Brunn variety of Cromagnid is said to have a variation from dolicho- to brachycephaly.
    Many of the examples provided by Coon were in fact long-skulled:

    Faelids and Paleo Atlantids are both said to be in a dolicho-meso range:
    "The Dalo-Falid head is meso- to dolichocephalic, and is characterized by a wedge-like shape."
    Paleo Atlantids:

    So brachycephalic form is certainly not the only type common among Cromagnids and predominantly Cromagnid people.
    Another thing is that women have a higher maximum point where they are still considered mesocephalic than men do due to natural variation:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index
    And finally, the Oberkassel woman who was a robust Cromagnid (looks Faelid) and is said to have been dolichocephalic (cephalic index of about 71 or 70,3 according to source link I post):

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig1_228766499
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Please, feel free to also post Irano-CMs (Robust Iranids)
    Stop pulling non-existent phenotypes out of your illiterate bottom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    Cms with short alpine faces tend to be rugby players. They're very masculine and beastly in appearance. Who said Cms look like sissies?

    Sure, there are long faced CMS, like the guy you posted. It varies I guess. There are long faced and short faced CMs. But though, I doubt that there are doli CMs.
    "CM" (UP) refers to strictly defined set of traits, not to subjectivity of "looking tough". Most people posted around here as "CM" have nothing to do with CM whatsoever.
    And majority of them was dolichocephalic before the Mesolithic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Stop pulling non-existent phenotypes out of your illiterate bottom.
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    Whether you consider something a stabilized blend, particularly common phenotype, etc. is irrelevant.
    According to you many blends don't exist simply 'cause some anthropologist didn't write about them or didn't notice them in particular quantity. Lame logic - whether you like it or not, mixes of Dinarid/Alpinid, Iranid/CM, Mediterranean/Armenoid, Dinarid/CM, etc. all can be observed in reasonable frequency among certain groups.
    I am not illiterate and most people here know it well.
    Your habit of denying the existence of blends of certain phenotypes is funny, on the other hand.
    Again, no anthropologist had the time and chance to visit all parts of the world, so as to give a name to all possible variants of mixed phenotypes within a certain race and between different races, too.
    Many of them did visit several regions and coined some specific terms.
    Based mostly on this some internet experts described certain mixes of the types mentioned by Coon, Lundman, Biasutti, Gnther, Deniker, etc. And they didn't even use numbers which is fine because of borders changing, migrations and later mixing between phenotypes in each state and so on and so forth. Not to mention that in some European states (Russia, Scotland, England, to name a few) different phenotypical proportions exist between upper, middle and lower classes and this has been mentioned by anthropologists and confirms history.
    The shittiest source some people here rely on is Richard McCulloch and The Racial Compact. The only worse thing are the delusions of others denying the existence of 80% of phenotypes in a certain area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Whether you consider something a stabilized blend, particularly common phenotype, etc. is irrelevant.
    According to you many blends don't exist simply 'cause some anthropologist didn't write about them or didn't notice them in particular quantity. Lame logic - whether you like it or not, mixes of Dinarid/Alpinid, Iranid/CM, Mediterranean/Armenoid, Dinarid/CM, etc. all can be observed in reasonable frequency among certain groups.
    I am not illiterate and most people here know it well.
    Your habit of denying the existence of blends of certain phenotypes is funny, on the other hand.
    Again, no anthropologist had the time and chance to visit all parts of the world, so as to give a name to all possible variants of mixed phenotypes within a certain race and between different races, too.
    Many of them did visit several regions and coined some specific terms.
    Based mostly on this some internet experts described certain mixes of the types mentioned by Coon, Lundman, Biasutti, Gnther, Deniker, etc. And they didn't even use numbers which is fine because of borders changing, migrations and later mixing between phenotypes in each state and so on and so forth. Not to mention that in some European states (Russia, Scotland, England, to name a few) different phenotypical proportions exist between upper, middle and lower classes and this has been mentioned by anthropologists and confirms history.
    The shittiest source some people here rely on is Richard McCulloch and The Racial Compact. The only worse thing are the delusions of others denying the existence of 80% of phenotypes in a certain area.
    I do not deny that blends of phenotypes exist, but that it is counter-productive to invent a new one for every blend imaginable. What I deny is yours (and almost everyone else's here) ability to actually recognize a phenotype, for you do not recognize it rationally, by assessing one's morphological and metrical qualities in sane manner, but by "feels" gained by looking upon hundreds of "representative examples" on anthrofora.

    Some are downrightly outrageous, such as your notion about "Irano-CM (Robust Iranid)". CM (UP) is not about merely "being robust", but about having a specific array of traits, nigh everything you deem "CM" is not CM at all. Broad face/jaw do not make one CM on their own.

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    Here are some cromagnoid, robust irano afghans, irano nordics and nordics from Facebook. Some of these are my relatives from my afghan side. This is the first set. (All are afghans)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thykingdomcome View Post
    Here are some cromagnoid, robust irano afghans, irano nordics and nordics from Facebook. Some of these are my relatives from my afghan side. This is the first set. (All are afghans)
    Although some are not CM (and rather Irano-Nordid, Dinarid and others), but I'll be nice and display them for you.









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