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    Default Dozens killed in Libya clashes: witness

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    TRIPOLI (Reuters) – Dozens of protesters were killed in clashes with Libyan security forces in the eastern city of Benghazi on Saturday, a witness said, in the worst unrest in Muammar Gaddafi's four decades in power.

    Snipers fired at protesters from a compound to which they had withdrawn, said the resident, who did not want to be named.

    "Dozens were killed ... not 15, dozens. We are in the midst of a massacre here," he said. The man said he helped take the victims to a local hospital.

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    Default Gaddafi loyalists threaten Libyan protests

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    Muammar Gaddafi's regime has vowed to snuff out attempts to challenge the Libyan leader, after an opposition "day of anger" became a bloodbath and two policemen were reported hanged by protesters.

    According to a toll compiled by AFP from different local sources, at least 41 people have lost their lives since demonstrations first erupted on Tuesday.

    That toll does not include two policemen who were killed on Friday.

    Oea newspaper, which is close to Gaddafi's son Seif al-Islam, said they were killed after being captured in the eastern city of Al-Baida.

    Security forces were deployed around Al-Baida on Friday, a source close to the authorities told AFP, following reports on the internet that anti-regime protesters had seized control of the city.

    "Security forces were deployed heavily around the city and control all roads in and out, as well as the airport," the source said, declining to be named.

    Oea also reported 20 people were buried in Libya's second city of Benghazi on Friday after being killed in protests. A previous toll supplied by a medical source in the city was 14 dead.

    And protesters set fire to the headquarters of a local radio station in Benghazi after the building's guards withdrew, witnesses and a security source told AFP.

    Seven people were killed in protests in Derna, east of Benghazi, Oea reported.

    Earlier, the Revolutionary Committees, which are the backbone of Gaddafi's regime, laid down the law to protesters.

    "The response of the people and the Revolutionary Forces to any adventure by these small groups will be sharp and violent," the Revolutionary Committees said on the website of their newspaper, Azzahf Al-Akhdar (Green March).

    "The power of the people, the Jamahiriya (government by the masses), the Revolution and the leader are all red lines, and anyone who tries to cross or approach them will be committing suicide and playing with fire."

    Several thousand mourners on Friday went straight from weekly prayers to funerals for the Benghazi dead, witnesses told AFP, with one reporting that 13 victims were buried in the city's Hawari cemetery.

    "The security forces' vicious attacks on peaceful demonstrators lay bare the reality of Muammar Gaddafi's brutality when faced with any internal dissent," said HRW's Middle East and North Africa director, Sarah Leah Whitson.

    In Al-Baida, a well-informed Libyan source told AFP 14 civilians have been killed since Wednesday, including both protesters and members of the Revolutionary Committees.

    The source could not say how many members of the security forces had been killed.

    In another sign of growing disorder, about 1000 inmates broke out of a prison in Benghazi, Quryna newspaper reported on its website, and four convicts were killed by security forces when they tried to flee another prison outside Tripoli, a security services source said.

    The overall reported toll does not include the four prisoners.

    Iraq, meanwhile, denied that an Arab League summit set for March 29 in Baghdad, the first since popular unrest in the Middle East flared last month, had been postponed, as the Libyan presidency of the pan-Arab group had said.

    Gaddafi, 68, is the longest-serving leader in the Arab world, but his oil-producing North African nation is sandwiched between Tunisia and Egypt, whose long-time leaders have been toppled by popular uprisings.

    Opponents of his regime used Facebook to call for a national "day of anger" for Thursday, and Gaddafi sought to counter its impact with his own pro-regime rally in the heart of Tripoli.

    Hundreds joined the rally in Green Square.

    Gaddafi himself turned up briefly early on Friday, getting a rapturous welcome, according to images on state television which also showed what it called similar rallies in Benghazi, Sirte and other cities.

    US President Barack Obama on Friday condemned the use of violence against peaceful protesters in Libya, Bahrain and Yemen.

    "I am deeply concerned by reports of violence in Bahrain, Libya and Yemen," he said in a statement read to reporters aboard Air Force One.

    "The United States condemns the use of violence by governments against peaceful protesters in those countries and wherever it may occur."

    Britain, France and the European Union have called for restraint by the authorities in Libya, whose relations with the West have improved sharply over the past decade after years of virtual pariah status.

    France said on Friday it had suspended authorisation of exports of security equipment to both Libya and Bahrain over the killing of anti-government protesters.

    And Britain stopped the export of some security equipment to Bahrain and Libya because of the risk it might be used to suppress anti-regime protests, the foreign office said.

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    Default Nearly 100 killed in Libyan crackdown on unrest

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    CAIRO – Libyan forces opened fire on mourners leaving a funeral for protesters Saturday in the flashpoint city of Benghazi, and a medical official said 15 people were killed, with bodies piling up in a hospital and doctors collapsing in grief at the sight of dead relatives.

    The deaths pushed the overall estimated death toll to 99 in five days of unprecedented protests against the 42-year reign of Moammar Gadhafi. Government forces also wiped out a protest encampment and clamped down on Internet service throughout the North African nation.

    As relatives buried their dead, they fell victim to a mixture of special commandos, foreign mercenaries and Gadhafi loyalists armed with knives, Kalashnikovs and even anti-aircraft missiles trying to quell the demonstrations, witnesses said.

    "The blood of our martyrs is still leaking from coffins over the shoulders of the mourners," one female protester, who is also a lawyer, said while standing in front of about 20 coffins lined up in front of the Northern Court building in Benghazi, Libya's second-largest city and the epicenter of the current unrest.

    Before Saturday's violence, Human Rights Watch had estimated at least 84 people have been killed.

    Hospitals ran low on medical supplies and were packed with bodies shot in the chest and head, said the medical official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of fears of reprisal.

    "Many of the dead and the injured are relatives of doctors here," the official, who provided the figure of 15 dead, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "They are crying, and I keep telling them to please stand up and help us."

    Information is tightly controlled in Libya, where journalists cannot work freely, and some of the accounts could not be independently confirmed. Other information comes from opposition activists in exile.

    Gadhafi has been trying to bring his country out of isolation, announcing in 2003 that he was abandoning his program for weapons of mass destruction, renouncing terrorism and compensating victims of the 1986 La Belle disco bombing in Berlin and the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am airliner over Lockerbie, Scotland.

    Those decisions opened the door for warmer relations with the West and the lifting of U.N. and U.S. sanctions, but Gadhafi continues to face allegations of human rights violations in the North African nation.

    British Foreign Secretary William Hague called reports of the use of snipers and heavy weapons against demonstrators in Libya "clearly unacceptable and horrifying," and criticized restrictions on media access.

    Before the Internet was shut down, videos posted on a Facebook page showed Libyan protesters smashing a stone representation of the "Green Book," which is Ghadhafi's manifesto, as well as destroying billboards of the Libyan leader. Video of torched Revolutionary Committees buildings also were posted.

    Protesters say that defiance is growing with the increasing bloodshed and attempts by authorities to silence them by offering financial compensation to relatives of the dead.

    "Gadhafi's men came to us and tried to bribe many of our colleagues," said the female protester, but she added that the opposition would not agree to any negotiations with the regime because of the bloodshed.

    Her account could not be verified independently but was identical to those of several others contacted by the AP.

    Hatred of Gadhafi's rule has grown in Benghazi in the past two decades. Anger has focused on the shooting deaths of about 1,200 inmates — most of them political prisoners — during prison riots in 1996.

    Families of the dead since then have been holding small demonstrations calling for the prosecution of those responsible for the killings. But the current protests have been larger, apparently spurred by revolts that ousted the Tunisian and Egyptian leaders.

    "There's no turning back," said Mohammed Abdullah, a Dubai-based member of the Libyan Salvation Front. "It is over for Gadhafi."

    According to several accounts, police in Benghazi initially followed orders to act against the protest but later joined with them because they belong to the same tribe and saw the foreign mercenaries taking part in the killings.

    A similar scenario took place in other eastern cities, including Beyda, which once housed Libya's parliament before Gadhafi's military coup in September 1969 toppled the monarchy.

    Protests spread to outside the southern city of Zentan and west to Mesrata, the third-biggest city in Libya.

    "Now people are tearing down the posters of Gadhafi. This never happened before," a protester from Mesrata said by phone who did not want to give his name because of fear of reprisal.

    The capital of Tripoli, however, remained a stronghold of support for Gadhafi, with security forces swiftly curbing small protests erupting in the outskirts. Secret police were heavily deployed on the streets, as residents kept their opinions and emotions secret.

    Residents reported receiving short messages on their mobile phones warning about taking any action against Gadhafi, national security and the oil industry, which are among "red lines" in Libya that must not be crossed.

    A female protester said she tried to rally people in the streets Friday but ended up among 150 protesters detained by police at the end of the day. She was let go because she was the sole woman among them.

    "It is very, very difficult for protesters to appear in the streets of Tripoli, except at night. People are under siege and those who dare to show up are arrested," she said.

    State-run media show only footage of the flamboyantly dressed Gadhafi, which it called "the inspiring leader," waving to hundreds of cheering loyalists.

    Libyan author Hisham Matar, whose novel "In the Country of Men" was shortlisted for the 2006 Man Booker Prize, said the regime wants to make "an example of Benghazi."

    "The danger now is that because of the extraordinary impunity with which the Gadhafi regime and security apparatus are able to act, we might see the death toll rise even higher," said Matar, whose father, a political dissident, was kidnapped in Egypt in 1990 and never seen again.

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    The end is near, definitely, the world has gone crazy

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    Poor Gaddafi, I wish him well. I lived the first 4 years of my life in Lybia, my dad made tons of money there thanks to Gaddafi's goodwill towards Serb gastarbeiters. Don't give up, brah!

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    I'm interested in seeing Loddfafner's thoughts on this threat to the power of the political hero of his youth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll's Puzzle View Post
    I'm interested in seeing Loddfafner's thoughts on this threat to the power of the political hero of his youth
    If Qadafi were insane, he would not have lasted this long. As a buffoon he would make a great fictional character but alas the Libyans have to endure the consequences of his actions. I would say he is much more, well, entertaining than your average head of state but he is not a head of state. He abolished the government and declared that the whole country would operate by consensus. The irony of an anarchic dictatorship is a lesson for all those collectives that claim to run by consensus but in reality the lack of procedures amounts to a lack of any check on the loudest mouth in the group.

    The massacres in Benghazi certainly call attention to the falseness of the Jamahiriyya (state of the masses) ideology. Benghazi, though, is historically part of a different country with a different folk, Cyrenaica, than Tripoli. The two just happen to have been fused together by Italian colonizers. If the masses rise up in Tripoli, that will be much more serious for Qadafi.

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    King Idris, overthrown by Qadafi in 1969, had been the Emir of Cyrenaica. This factoid might be relevant to Cyrenaicans being quicker to challenge Qadafi's legitimacy than then Tripolitanians.

    As for their separate histories, they were separate Greek colonies and separate Roman and Ottoman provinces. Culturally, Tripolitania is closer to the Maghreb in that they eat couscous while the Cyrenaican diet is closer to that of Egypt. Also, the dialects are distinct, and that of Cyrenaica extends into western Egypt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    If the masses rise up in Tripoli, that will be much more serious for Qadafi.
    This now happening.

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    Perhaps the greatest byproduct of the war in Iraq is that it literally scared Qadhafi straight. He went from being a fanatical anti-Western zealot developing WMDs to the most pro-Western Arab leader warning of letting Turkey in the EU and assisting Berlusconi in halting African boat traffic. His fall will be catastrophic for the West.

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