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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Today on 'Poreklo' (forum of Serbian DNA project) are published new averages for Serbs of Bosnia and Herzegovina by regions (8 regions)

    Herzegovina (https://i.postimg.cc/ncSJpXbD/image.png)


    Sarajevo and Romamija (https://i.postimg.cc/KzYYJdnX/image.png)


    Gornje Podrinje (https://i.postimg.cc/mD301DcB/image.png)


    Donje Podrinje (https://i.postimg.cc/8CkDS9tZ/image.png)


    Central Bosnia (https://i.postimg.cc/t4MXyym2/2.png)


    Krajina (https://i.postimg.cc/90kSvNzN/image.png)


    Vrbas (https://i.postimg.cc/KvwjNGct/image.png)


    Posavina and Ozren (https://i.postimg.cc/Y9R48sM5/1.png)
    Something about rare haplos/branches:
    - J2b2-M241>L283 is most common in Krajina with 2.61%, then Vrbas 1.66%, Donje Podrinje 1.59%, Posavina and Ozren 1.41%, Gornje Podrinje 1.2% and Herzegovina 0.18%, in other regions is not found yet
    - R1b-U152: Central Bosnia 3.85%, Donje Podrinje 3.17%, Herzegovina 2.9%, Gornje Podrinje 1.2%, Krajina 1.05%, Vrbas 0.55%, other regions 0%
    - R1b-U106: Sarajevo and Romanija 3.51%, Gornje Podrinje 1.2%, Vrbas 0.55%, other regions 0%
    - L1b-M349 (with 1.09%) and Q1-YP1600 (with 0.18%) exist only in Herzegovina

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    The nine region with a delay - Semberija and Majevica (northeastern part of Bosnia).
    In that region J2b2-M241>L283 is 8.33%, the highest among Serbs of BiH. Also exist Q1-YP1600 (1.67%), which means Herzegovina is not only region with presence of that rare/exotic haplo.

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    Do you have the global total average of Bosnian Serbs VS Serbs from Serbia vs Serbs from Montenegro, just to highlight differences (or similarities) ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    Do you have the global total average of Bosnian Serbs VS Serbs from Serbia vs Serbs from Montenegro, just to highlight differences (or similarities) ?
    Unfortunately guy who made regional averages for Serbs of BiH didn't post total average for Serbs of Bosnia and Herzegovina, but i know something roughly. The strongest haplo among Serbs of BiH and Croatia is I2a-Y3120, second is R1a, and third is E-V13. Among Serbs from Serbia the strongest is I2-Y3120, and R1a and E-V13 are equal. Among Serbs of Montenegro the strongest is I2-Y3120, second is E-V13, and R1a is not even third but no 5 or 6.

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    I2-Y3120 and R1a by branches.

    Herzegovina
    I2-Y3120 = 45.83% (PH908 32.79% / north 13.04%)
    R1a = 14.67% (Z280 10.14% / M458 4.53%)

    Sarajevo and Romanija
    I2-Y3120 = 31.59% (PH908 26.33% / north 5.26%)
    R1a = 5.26% (M458 3.51% / Z280 1.75%)

    Gornje Podrinje
    I2-Y3120 = 34.95% (PH908 25.31% / north 9.64%)
    R1a = 10.84% (M458 6.02% / Z280 4.82%)

    Donje Podrinje
    R1a = 38.1% (Z280 31.75% / M458 6.35%)
    I2-Y3120 = 17.46% (PH908 12.7% / north 4.76%)

    Central Bosnia
    I2-Y3120 = 42.31% (PH908 38.46% / north 3.85%)
    R1a = 26.92% (Z280 15.38% / M458 11.54%)

    Krajina
    I2-Y3120 = 38.22% (PH908 25.65% / north 12.57%)
    R1a = 18.85% (Z280 13.61% / M458 5.24%)

    Vrbas
    I2-Y3120 = 43.09% (PH908 29.83% / north 13.26%)
    R1a = 18.78% (Z280 10.5% / M458 8.29%)

    Posavina and Ozren
    I2-Y3120 = 59.15% (PH908 53.52% / north 5.63%)
    R1a = 15.49% (M458 9.86% / Z280 4.23% / M417 1.41%)

    Semberija and Majevica
    I2-Y3120 = 30% (PH908 21.67% / north 8.33%)
    R1a = 16.67% (Z280 11.67% / M458 3.33% / unknown 1.67%)

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    Serbs of Bosnia and Herzegovina as whole (published on Poreklo few days ago).



    Also this: darker blue - Slavs (58%) / red - Old Balkan and romanized population (30%) / green - Germanics (8%) / lighter blue - unknown (4%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doclean View Post
    This j2b and e1b in Bosnian Krajina proves that "Serbs" who migrated there from Kosovo during "great serb migrations" were in high percentage Albanians.

    It would be interesting if someone had genetics of Croatian Serbs i think there is even higher percentage of J2b and E-V13
    There is no evidence that such a migration from Kosova ever took place. It is part of Serb invented political propaganda to make Albanians in Kosova look like colonists from outside that supposedly came and took their place. The towns in Kosova were mainly Albanian prior to such events, in which ironically many of these so called Serb historians who assert such a massive migration took place claim these Serb migrants supposedly came from the towns inhabited specifically by Muslim Albanians. Austrian and Ottoman sources included at least Western and Central Kosova and Llapi in the north-east area within Albania prior to these events. Many Serbs also migrated into Kosova in the 18th century .

    This essay examines both the historical facts concerning the migration of Serbs from Kosovo in 1690, and the claims made about that migration by subsequent historians—claims which, at their most extreme, suggested that hundreds of thousands of Serbs departed, with huge effects on the ethnic composition of the region. This essay demonstrates that there was no large-scale organized exodus of Serbs under the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch, Arsenije Crnojević: his departure from Kosovo in early 1690 was extremely hasty, and he had not, in any case, been leading organized resistance to the Ottomans. A large number of Serbs did move with the Patriarch to Hungarian territory later in that year; he himself gave their numbers as 30,000 or 40,000. But they had gathered, from many areas, in the Belgrade region, and only a small proportion were from Kosovo itself. One unsupported claim was made many years later, by a Serbian monk, that the Patriarch had brought 37,000 families to Hungary; and in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries many Serb writers interpreted that figure maximally, while also assuming that all those people had come from Kosovo. This essay analyses the ideological influences (operating primarily on Serbs within the Habsburg territories in the nineteenth century) that helped to shape that interpretation; it also criticizes excessive claims made by modern Albanian and Turkish historians.
    https://academic.oup.com/book/37426/...dFrom=fulltext

    It is nothing but Chetnik political propaganda, invented like many other things about Kosove.

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