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    Default 2 Sicilian Bell Beaker (2500 BC) GEDMatches.... VERY interesting.

    The two are very different, and the calculator results vary a lot. Might be low SNP call rate.

    Basically a mixture of Sardinian-like and Caucasus (in different amounts).

    They can be modeled as half Sardinian, half West Asian in some of these calculators. The Steppe input for the most part came later as did some of the more southern-shifted MENA.



    #1:

    MDLP K16:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 51.42
    2 Neolithic 34.69
    3 NearEast 8.4
    4 NorthEastEuropean 5.48

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Cypriot (Cyprus) 15.19
    2 Greek (Greece) 16.63
    3 Jew (Turkish_Sephardim) 17.2
    4 Greek (Athens) 17.21
    5 Jew (Italian) 17.74
    6 Sicilian (Sicily) 18.21
    7 Italian (SouthItaly) 18.43
    8 Jew (Bulgaria) 18.59
    9 Maltese (Malta) 18.77
    10 Jew (Turkey) 18.85
    11 Jew (Ashkenazim) 19.02
    12 Jew (Morocco) 19.2
    13 Jew (Sephardim) 19.38
    14 Jew (Algeria) 19.39
    15 Jew (Ashkenazi) 19.41
    16 Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) 19.67
    17 Jew (Libya) 19.71
    18 Druze (Mount_Carmel) 19.81
    19 Jew (Tunisian) 20.17
    20 Jew (Syria) 20.54

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 67.3% Druze (Mount_Carmel) + 32.7% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 10.53
    2 76.6% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 23.4% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 10.97
    3 59.1% Turk (Trabzon) + 40.9% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 11.28
    4 59.1% Jew (Georgia) + 40.9% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 11.65
    5 60.1% Armenian (Armenia) + 39.9% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 11.87
    6 60.5% Georgian (Laz) + 39.5% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 13.65
    7 78.7% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 21.3% Italian (Bergamo) @ 13.81
    8 90.2% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 9.8% Basque (Spain) @ 14.1
    9 62.5% Assyrian (Armenia) + 37.5% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 14.17
    10 85.9% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 14.1% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 14.17
    11 79.8% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 20.2% Corsican (Corsica) @ 14.18
    12 89.3% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 10.7% French (SouthFrance) @ 14.2
    13 90.6% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 9.4% Basque (France) @ 14.21
    14 86.1% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 13.9% Spanish (Spain) @ 14.33
    15 76.1% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 23.9% Greek (Thessaloniki) @ 14.38
    16 79.2% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 20.8% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 14.41
    17 76.5% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 23.5% Albanian (Albania) @ 14.42
    18 70.3% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 29.7% Sicilian (Sicily) @ 14.45
    19 64.4% Lebanese (Lebanon) + 35.6% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 14.46
    20 71.3% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 28.7% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 14.5



    MDLP K23:

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 49.61
    2 Caucasian 41.06

    3 South_Central_Asian 5.16
    4 African_Pygmy 2.61
    5 Near_East 1.33


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 25.390965
    2 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 26.075409
    3 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 26.233383
    4 Italian_Bergamo_ @ 26.442036
    5 Spanish_Baleares_IBS_ @ 28.425312
    6 Sardinian_ @ 29.166544
    7 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 29.197670
    8 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 29.806211
    9 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 30.142460
    10 Sicilian_Center_ @ 30.163881
    11 Maltese_ @ 30.292053
    12 French_Jew_ @ 30.310192
    13 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS_ @ 30.369867
    14 Spanish_Murcia_IBS_ @ 30.731325
    15 Greek_Islands_ @ 30.885347
    16 Sicilian_East_ @ 31.101923
    17 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 31.163599
    18 Sicilian_West_ @ 31.201712
    19 Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 31.442533
    20 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS_ @ 31.946842

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Sardinian_ +50% Turk_Trabzon_ @ 14.232755


    Eurogenes K15:
    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 39.66
    2 West_Asian 26.59
    3 West_Med 24.08
    4 Red_Sea 6.58
    5 Oceanian 2.46
    6 Baltic 0.61
    7 East_Med 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_German 32.14
    2 French 33.57
    3 Spanish_Galicia 34.51
    4 Greek_Thessaly 35.24
    5 South_Dutch 35.48
    6 Romanian 36.02
    7 North_Italian 36.03
    8 Portuguese 36.07
    9 Southwest_English 36.08
    10 Serbian 36.13
    11 Tuscan 36.4
    12 Norwegian 36.81
    13 Hungarian 36.87
    14 East_German 36.88
    15 West_Norwegian 36.93
    16 Orcadian 36.96
    17 North_Dutch 37.03
    18 Swedish 37.22
    19 Moldavian 37.35
    20 Spanish_Extremadura 37.49

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 64.9% West_German + 35.1% Ossetian @ 27.2
    2 69.7% West_German + 30.3% Abhkasian @ 27.21
    3 68.2% West_German + 31.8% Georgian @ 27.37
    4 61.5% West_Norwegian + 38.5% Abhkasian @ 27.64
    5 59.6% West_Norwegian + 40.4% Georgian @ 27.73
    6 56.1% West_Norwegian + 43.9% Ossetian @ 27.79
    7 65.1% West_German + 34.9% Chechen @ 27.93
    8 66% West_German + 34% Balkar @ 27.94
    9 62.7% West_German + 37.3% Tabassaran @ 27.99
    10 68.1% West_German + 31.9% North_Ossetian @ 28.02
    11 62.1% Norwegian + 37.9% Abhkasian @ 28.17
    12 68% West_German + 32% Adygei @ 28.25
    13 60.1% Norwegian + 39.9% Georgian @ 28.26
    14 57% Spanish_Galicia + 43% Tabassaran @ 28.27
    15 56.6% Norwegian + 43.4% Ossetian @ 28.3
    16 62% Orcadian + 38% Abhkasian @ 28.36
    17 67% West_German + 33% Kabardin @ 28.36
    18 64.9% West_German + 35.1% Kumyk @ 28.37
    19 63% French + 37% Ossetian @ 28.39
    20 60% Orcadian + 40% Georgian @ 28.41



    Dodecad:
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 50.04
    2 Caucasus 23.19
    3 North_European 18.41
    4 Northwest_African 8.36

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Baleares (1000Genomes) 11.79
    2 North_Italian (HGDP) 11.81
    3 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 12.28
    4 Murcia (1000Genomes) 13.27
    5 Canarias (1000Genomes) 13.27
    6 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 13.93
    7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.95
    8 Galicia (1000Genomes) 14.04
    9 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 14.12
    10 Portuguese (Dodecad) 14.67
    11 Spaniards (Behar) 14.74
    12 Spanish (Dodecad) 15.47
    13 Valencia (1000Genomes) 15.64
    14 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.88
    15 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 16.15
    16 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 16.18
    17 Aragon (1000Genomes) 16.34
    18 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 16.79
    19 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.21
    20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.59

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.9% Sardinian (HGDP) + 46.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 8.84
    2 69.1% Sardinian (HGDP) + 30.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 8.85
    3 53.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 46.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.86
    4 67% Sardinian (HGDP) + 33% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.91
    5 69.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 30.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 9.06
    6 54.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 45.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 9.07
    7 58.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 41.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 9.12
    8 70.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 9.3
    9 77.5% North_Italian (HGDP) + 22.5% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 9.31
    10 67.9% Sardinian (HGDP) + 32.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 9.35
    11 69.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 30.8% Russian (Dodecad) @ 9.4
    12 69.1% Sardinian (HGDP) + 30.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 9.48
    13 69.3% Andalucia (1000Genomes) + 30.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 9.69
    14 57.4% North_Italian (HGDP) + 42.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 9.7
    15 65.4% Andalucia (1000Genomes) + 34.6% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 9.71
    16 77.3% Andalucia (1000Genomes) + 22.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 9.77
    17 62.7% Andalucia (1000Genomes) + 37.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 9.79
    18 79.7% Andalucia (1000Genomes) + 20.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 9.84
    19 69.8% Sardinian (HGDP) + 30.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 9.85
    20 79.4% Andalucia (1000Genomes) + 20.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 9.86



    PuntDNA-L K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 SW_Europe 53.05
    2 NE_Europe 22.36
    3 West_Asia 15.35
    4 Oceania 6.2
    5 SW_Asia 3.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Bergamo 14.31
    2 Italian_Tuscan 16.2
    3 Spaniard 16.8
    4 Albanian 18.5
    5 French_Basque 18.5
    6 Greek_Thessaly 18.66
    7 Kosovar 18.82
    8 Italian_Abruzzo 18.86
    9 Macedonian 20.86
    10 Bulgarian 21.39
    11 Greek_Central 21.45
    12 Italian_Sicilian 22.09
    13 Ashkenazy_Jew 22.45
    14 Montenegrin 23.6
    15 French 23.77
    16 Serbian 24.23
    17 Romanian 24.52
    18 Sephardic_Jew 25.84
    19 Puerto_Rican 26.69
    20 German_South 26.98

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 71.9% French_Basque + 28.1% Turkish_Trabzon @ 10.32
    2 67.9% French_Basque + 32.1% Cypriot @ 11.35
    3 73.7% French_Basque + 26.3% Armenian @ 11.37
    4 74.4% French_Basque + 25.6% Assyrian @ 11.59
    5 56.7% French_Basque + 43.3% Italian_Sicilian @ 11.77
    6 70.8% French_Basque + 29.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 12.02
    7 74% French_Basque + 26% Abkhasian @ 12.08
    8 73.5% French_Basque + 26.5% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 12.09
    9 73% French_Basque + 27% Lebanese_Druze @ 12.12
    10 57.5% French_Basque + 42.5% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 12.14
    11 72.8% French_Basque + 27.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 12.22
    12 73.6% French_Basque + 26.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 12.23
    13 50.9% French_Basque + 49.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.38
    14 73.1% French_Basque + 26.9% Syrian @ 12.4
    15 69.9% French_Basque + 30.1% Turkish @ 12.42
    16 75.9% French_Basque + 24.1% Kurdish @ 12.43
    17 62.3% French_Basque + 37.7% Sephardic_Jew @ 12.45
    18 76.1% French_Basque + 23.9% Samaritan_Jew @ 12.73
    19 77.2% French_Basque + 22.8% Iranian @ 12.76
    20 74.4% French_Basque + 25.6% Ossetian @ 12.78


    Eurasia K9 ASI:
    # Population Percent
    1 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 62.43
    2 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 25.27
    3 Ancestral_South_Indian 11.27
    4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 1.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Stuttgart 35.54
    2 Iceman 36.83
    3 Sicilian 42.45
    4 Cypriot 42.83
    5 Sardinian 43.28
    6 Greek 43.44
    7 Georgian 43.55
    8 LBK_EN 43.93
    9 Maltese 44.01
    10 Anatolia_Neolithic 44.2
    11 Turkish 44.47
    12 Tuscan 44.53
    13 Armenian 44.59
    14 Albanian 44.88
    15 Abkhasian 45.05
    16 Kurd_C 45.96
    17 Druze 46.98
    18 Adygei 47.13
    19 Iranian_Jew 47.13
    20 Georgian_Jew 47.54

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 59.1% Anatolia_Neolithic + 40.9% Punjabi @ 7.93
    2 59.3% LBK_EN + 40.7% Punjabi @ 8.05
    3 58.3% Anatolia_Neolithic + 41.7% Pathan @ 9.04
    4 59.2% Anatolia_Neolithic + 40.8% Brahui @ 9.12
    5 58.5% LBK_EN + 41.5% Pathan @ 9.15
    6 59.4% LBK_EN + 40.6% Brahui @ 9.16
    7 58.6% Anatolia_Neolithic + 41.4% Kalash @ 9.27
    8 58.8% LBK_EN + 41.2% Kalash @ 9.39
    9 58.7% Anatolia_Neolithic + 41.3% Balochi @ 9.46
    10 58.9% LBK_EN + 41.1% Balochi @ 9.51
    11 59.1% Anatolia_Neolithic + 40.9% Burusho @ 10.29
    12 59.2% LBK_EN + 40.8% Burusho @ 10.38
    13 58.9% Anatolia_Neolithic + 41.1% Makrani @ 10.47
    14 59% LBK_EN + 41% Makrani @ 10.51
    15 58.3% Anatolia_Neolithic + 41.7% Kurd_SE @ 10.86
    16 58.5% LBK_EN + 41.5% Kurd_SE @ 10.96
    17 61.1% Anatolia_Neolithic + 38.9% Bengali @ 11.17
    18 56.8% Anatolia_Neolithic + 43.2% Pashtun_Afghan @ 11.2
    19 61.3% LBK_EN + 38.7% Bengali @ 11.21
    20 56.9% LBK_EN + 43.1% Pashtun_Afghan @ 11.3


    Near East Neolithic K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 60.02
    2 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 12.93
    3 CHG_EEF 12.15
    4 SHG_WHG 6.13
    5 SIBERIAN 5.68
    6 KARITIANA 2.23
    7 POLAR 0.46
    8 NATUFIAN 0.39

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Stuttgart 20.1
    2 Europe_MNChL 23.74
    3 Anatolia_ChL 24.44
    4 Europe_EN 27.54
    5 Sardinian 32.85
    6 Anatolia_N 36.16
    7 Armenia_ChL 37.93
    8 Sicilian 44.46
    9 Albanian 45.29
    10 Greek 45.64
    11 Jew_Moroccan 46.08
    12 Cypriot 46.31
    13 Italian_South 47.19
    14 Armenia_MLBA 47.37
    15 Jew_Ashkenazi 47.99
    16 Jew_Libyan 48.04
    17 Jew_Tunisian 48.29
    18 Turkish_Balekesir 48.5
    19 Turkish 48.59
    20 Bulgarian 48.81

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 67.2% Europe_EN + 32.8% Balkar @ 7.19
    2 64.9% Europe_EN + 35.1% Turkish_Aydin @ 7.25
    3 68.5% Europe_EN + 31.5% Abkhasian @ 7.29
    4 64.4% Europe_EN + 35.6% Turkish_Balekesir @ 7.3
    5 70.3% Europe_EN + 29.7% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 7.68
    6 67% Europe_EN + 33% Azeri @ 7.72
    7 68.2% Europe_EN + 31.8% Georgian @ 7.8
    8 68.5% Europe_EN + 31.5% Adygei @ 7.83
    9 57.6% Anatolia_N + 42.4% Turkish_Balekesir @ 7.88
    10 67.7% Europe_EN + 32.3% Nogai @ 8.06
    11 68.5% Europe_EN + 31.5% Iranian_Lori @ 8.1
    12 65.4% Europe_EN + 34.6% Turkish_Kayseri @ 8.12
    13 64.5% Europe_EN + 35.5% Turkish @ 8.13
    14 68.5% Europe_EN + 31.5% Kurd_C @ 8.14
    15 58.1% Anatolia_N + 41.9% Turkish_Aydin @ 8.15
    16 68.2% Europe_EN + 31.8% Iranian @ 8.19
    17 68.4% Europe_EN + 31.6% Kumyk @ 8.28
    18 65.7% Europe_EN + 34.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 8.35
    19 69% Europe_EN + 31% Iranian_Shirazi @ 8.45
    20 68.1% Europe_EN + 31.9% Turkmen @ 8.57




    #2:

    MDLP K16:
    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 52.39
    2 Caucasian 25.75

    3 Steppe 12.13
    4 NorthEastEuropean 3.47
    5 Siberian 3.3
    6 Oceanic 1.15
    7 Ancestor 1.03
    8 Australian 0.77

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sardinian (Sardinia) 10.96
    2 Spanish (Andalucia) 20.32
    3 Italian (Bergamo) 20.47
    4 Spanish (Baleares) 20.66
    5 Spanish (Murcia) 21.55
    6 Spanish (Valencia) 21.56
    7 Spanish (Aragon) 21.71
    8 Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) 22.02
    9 Spanish (Cataluna) 22.04
    10 Spanish (Cantabria) 22.35
    11 Spanish (Extremadura) 22.51
    12 Corsican (Corsica) 22.52
    13 Italian (Tuscany) 22.55
    14 Spanish (Castilla_y_Leon) 22.96
    15 Spanish (Galicia) 23.24
    16 Spanish (Spain) 23.56
    17 French (SouthFrance) 24.53
    18 Italian (NorthIitaly) 24.63
    19 Spanish (Pais_Vasco) 25.38
    20 Portuguese (Portugal) 25.38

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.1% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 12.9% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 7.11
    2 85.9% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.1% Balkar (Kabardino-Balkaria) @ 7.26
    3 86.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 13.8% Adygei (Adygea) @ 7.3
    4 85.6% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.4% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 7.32
    5 86% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14% Abkhazian (Gudauta) @ 7.32
    6 86.4% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 13.6% Abhkasian (Abkhasia) @ 7.35
    7 86.6% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 13.4% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 7.37
    8 86.1% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 13.9% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 7.37
    9 86% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14% Turk (Trabzon) @ 7.37
    10 85.8% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.2% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) @ 7.39
    11 85.8% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.2% Georgian (Georgia) @ 7.46
    12 85.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.8% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 7.47
    13 86.1% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 13.9% Armenian (Armenia) @ 7.6
    14 85.8% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.2% Ossetian (North_Ossetia) @ 7.62
    15 85.9% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.1% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 7.65
    16 84.5% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 15.5% Turk (Kayseri) @ 7.65
    17 86.3% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 13.7% Kumyk (Dagestan) @ 7.67
    18 85.3% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.7% Circassian (Circassia) @ 7.86
    19 85.5% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 14.5% Kabardin (Kabardino-Balkaria) @ 7.95
    20 84.8% Sardinian (Sardinia) + 15.2% Turk (Adana) @ 7.97


    MDLP K23:

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 38.26
    2 Caucasian 34.77
    3 North_African 8.09

    4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.53
    5 Near_East 4.19
    6 Australoid 3.51
    7 Archaic_Human 1.58
    8 African_Pygmy 1.13
    9 Tungus-Altaic 1.04


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 13.761235
    2 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 14.247825
    3 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 14.386563
    4 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 15.749977
    5 Italian_Bergamo_ @ 16.123007
    6 Maltese_ @ 16.194090
    7 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 16.914177
    8 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 17.301807
    9 Sicilian_Center_ @ 17.890909
    10 French_Jew_ @ 17.951210
    11 Sicilian_West_ @ 18.450773
    12 Sicilian_East_ @ 18.476643
    13 Spanish_Baleares_IBS_ @ 18.967546
    14 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 19.462942
    15 Ashkenazi_ @ 19.639051
    16 Italian_Jew_ @ 19.785477
    17 Romanian_Jew_ @ 20.599899
    18 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 20.734110
    19 Italian_South_ @ 20.863527
    20 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 20.915777

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ +50% Sardinian_ @ 8.298473


    Eurogenes K15:
    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 33.93
    2 East_Med 24
    3 Atlantic 16.97
    4 West_Asian 10.98
    5 North_Sea 9.74
    6 Red_Sea 2.42
    7 Eastern_Euro 1.96

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan 15.18
    2 West_Sicilian 15.8
    3 South_Italian 16.64
    4 North_Italian 17.2
    5 East_Sicilian 17.34
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 17.49
    7 Sardinian 17.49
    8 Central_Greek 17.57
    9 Italian_Jewish 18.39
    10 Algerian_Jewish 18.57
    11 Greek 18.91
    12 Greek_Thessaly 19.27
    13 Sephardic_Jewish 20.16
    14 Ashkenazi 20.28
    15 Spanish_Andalucia 21.21
    16 Spanish_Extremadura 22.23
    17 Portuguese 22.67
    18 Spanish_Murcia 22.81
    19 Spanish_Valencia 23.35
    20 Tunisian_Jewish 23.56

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.3% Sardinian + 31.7% Armenian @ 5.57
    2 51.4% South_Italian + 48.6% Sardinian @ 5.57
    3 68.9% Sardinian + 31.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.83
    4 50.1% Sardinian + 49.9% Central_Greek @ 5.87
    5 68.1% Sardinian + 31.9% Assyrian @ 5.9
    6 50% Sardinian + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.97
    7 65.1% Sardinian + 34.9% Turkish @ 6.04
    8 68.3% Sardinian + 31.7% Azeri @ 6.07
    9 70.1% Sardinian + 29.9% Kurdish @ 6.16
    10 50.2% East_Sicilian + 49.8% Sardinian @ 6.18
    11 51.4% Sardinian + 48.6% Italian_Jewish @ 6.33
    12 69.1% Sardinian + 30.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.54
    13 71% Sardinian + 29% Iranian @ 6.59
    14 65.2% Sardinian + 34.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.74
    15 53% West_Sicilian + 47% Sardinian @ 6.79
    16 69.6% Sardinian + 30.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.81
    17 54.1% Sardinian + 45.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.84
    18 54.3% Sardinian + 45.7% Ashkenazi @ 7
    19 60.6% Sardinian + 39.4% Cyprian @ 7.04
    20 51.8% Sardinian + 48.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 7.38


    Dodecad K12b:
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 42.97
    2 Caucasus 35.18
    3 Southwest_Asian 12.5
    4 North_European 3.66
    5 Northwest_African 3.37
    6 Sub_Saharan 0.84
    7 Gedrosia 0.74
    8 Siberian 0.74

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.8
    2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.09
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.7
    4 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.75
    5 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.89
    6 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 17.03
    7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.38
    8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.49
    9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.32
    10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 20.96
    11 Greek (Dodecad) 21.15
    12 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.49
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.03
    14 Cypriots (Behar) 25.41
    15 Baleares (1000Genomes) 27.54
    16 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 27.58
    17 Murcia (1000Genomes) 27.93
    18 Canarias (1000Genomes) 27.96
    19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 29.53
    20 Sardinian (HGDP) 29.6

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 46.1% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 3.15
    2 64% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 4.44
    3 53.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 46.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.83
    4 62.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 37.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 5.52
    5 61.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 38.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 5.69
    6 68.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.24
    7 56.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43.8% Samaritians (Behar) @ 6.25
    8 52.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 47.3% Lebanese (Behar) @ 6.37
    9 67.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.1% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.38
    10 57.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 6.7
    11 65.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 34.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.83
    12 57% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 7.52
    13 52.6% Sardinian (HGDP) + 47.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 7.55
    14 57% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 7.61
    15 57.1% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 7.71
    16 57.9% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 7.77
    17 58.4% Sardinian (HGDP) + 41.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 7.84
    18 57.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 7.85
    19 54.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 45.3% Turks (Behar) @ 7.98
    20 58.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 41.8% Armenians (Behar) @ 8.09


    PuntDNA-L K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 SW_Europe 50.84
    2 NE_Europe 17.06
    3 West_Asia 16.41
    4 SW_Asia 11.99
    5 Oceania 1.96
    6 Americas 1.74

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Abruzzo 12.66
    2 Italian_Tuscan 13.83
    3 Italian_Sicilian 14.31
    4 Italian_Bergamo 14.99
    5 Ashkenazy_Jew 15.15
    6 Greek_Thessaly 15.85
    7 Albanian 15.86
    8 Greek_Central 16.48
    9 Kosovar 16.85
    10 Sephardic_Jew 17.05
    11 Spaniard 18.54
    12 Macedonian 20.6
    13 Bulgarian 21.09
    14 French_Basque 23.24
    15 Montenegrin 23.92
    16 Puerto_Rican 24.1
    17 Romanian 24.24
    18 Cypriot 24.63
    19 Serbian 25.45
    20 French 26.83

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 51.6% French_Basque + 48.4% Cypriot @ 7.45
    2 61.4% French_Basque + 38.6% Samaritan_Jew @ 8.33
    3 59.4% Sephardic_Jew + 40.6% French_Basque @ 8.58
    4 65.4% Italian_Sicilian + 34.6% French_Basque @ 8.67
    5 57.9% French_Basque + 42.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 8.77
    6 58.7% French_Basque + 41.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 9.17
    7 59.5% French_Basque + 40.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.32
    8 61.2% French_Basque + 38.8% Turkish_Trabzon @ 9.53
    9 58.5% French_Basque + 41.5% Syrian @ 9.57
    10 64.4% Ashkenazy_Jew + 35.6% French_Basque @ 9.63
    11 62.5% French_Basque + 37.5% Assyrian @ 9.73
    12 59.4% French_Basque + 40.6% Jordanian @ 9.8
    13 62.1% French_Basque + 37.9% Armenian @ 9.98
    14 61.6% French_Basque + 38.4% Palestinian @ 10.25
    15 74.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 25.7% French_Basque @ 10.42
    16 59.3% Spaniard + 40.7% Cypriot @ 10.49
    17 61.3% Italian_Sicilian + 38.7% Spaniard @ 10.6
    18 53.4% Sephardic_Jew + 46.6% Spaniard @ 10.95
    19 63.8% French_Basque + 36.2% Egyptian_Copts @ 11.01
    20 52.7% Italian_Sicilian + 47.3% Italian_Bergamo @ 11.04



    Eurasia K9 ASI:
    Population Percent
    1 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 47.68
    2 WHG 23.89
    3 SW_Asian 9.47
    4 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 8.29
    5 Ancestral_South_Indian 6.21
    6 W_African 1.98
    7 Siberian_E_Asian 1.53
    8 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 0.95

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sardinian 13.15
    2 Stuttgart 16.83
    3 Tuscan 19.74
    4 Albanian 20.8
    5 Greek 21.32
    6 Sicilian 22.01
    7 Maltese 22.96
    8 Spanish 23.17
    9 Bulgarian 24.63
    10 French_South 26.55
    11 Iceman 28.33
    12 French 29.66
    13 Croatian 31.25
    14 Cypriot 32.23
    15 Hungarian 33.87
    16 Turkish 34.55
    17 English 35.3
    18 Scottish 37.03
    19 Czech 37.81
    20 Lebanese 38.26

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 83.3% Stuttgart + 16.7% Puliyar @ 7.86
    2 83.1% Stuttgart + 16.9% Paniyas @ 8.18
    3 57% Sicilian + 43% Iceman @ 8.18
    4 55.9% Maltese + 44.1% Iceman @ 8.3
    5 58% Greek + 42% Iceman @ 8.37
    6 78.5% Stuttgart + 21.5% Ust_Ishim @ 8.4
    7 81.5% Stuttgart + 18.5% Punjabi @ 8.51
    8 58.8% Albanian + 41.2% Iceman @ 8.56
    9 60.3% Tuscan + 39.7% Iceman @ 8.57
    10 81.1% Stuttgart + 18.9% Burusho @ 8.58
    11 78.1% Stuttgart + 21.9% Tajik_Pomiri @ 8.66
    12 80.7% Stuttgart + 19.3% Pathan @ 8.66
    13 82.7% Stuttgart + 17.3% Bengali @ 8.69
    14 81.3% Stuttgart + 18.7% Kalash @ 8.76
    15 72.1% Spanish + 27.9% Anatolia_Neolithic @ 8.98
    16 72% Spanish + 28% LBK_EN @ 9
    17 79.4% Stuttgart + 20.6% Pashtun_Afghan @ 9.04
    18 78.2% Stuttgart + 21.8% Tajik_Afghan @ 9.17
    19 88.7% Sardinian + 11.3% Puliyar @ 9.22
    20 61.9% Stuttgart + 38.1% Bulgarian @ 9.24


    Near East Neolithic K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 43.81
    2 CHG_EEF 18.98
    3 NATUFIAN 11.45
    4 EHG 6.3
    5 PAPUAN 4.89
    6 SHG_WHG 4.77
    7 SUB_SAHARAN 3.91
    8 SIBERIAN 2.93
    9 KARITIANA 1.85
    10 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.12

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Stuttgart 19.07
    2 Sardinian 19.77
    3 Sicilian 28.38
    4 Albanian 29.66
    5 Greek 30.53
    6 Jew_Moroccan 30.84
    7 Anatolia_ChL 31.43
    8 Jew_Libyan 31.72
    9 Jew_Ashkenazi 31.95
    10 Italian_South 32.22
    11 Jew_Tunisian 32.25
    12 Bulgarian 32.85
    13 Cypriot 33.78
    14 Europe_MNChL 34.77
    15 Romanian 35.6
    16 Turkish 36.16
    17 Turkish_Balekesir 37.14
    18 Turkish_Istanbul 37.36
    19 Lebanese 37.44
    20 French 38.03

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.5% Stuttgart + 24.5% Steppe_IA @ 10.66
    2 74.1% Stuttgart + 25.9% Turkmen @ 10.95
    3 61.3% Sicilian + 38.7% Europe_EN @ 10.97
    4 58.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 41.9% Europe_EN @ 11.2
    5 78.7% Stuttgart + 21.3% Mansi @ 11.27
    6 82.2% Stuttgart + 17.8% MA1 @ 11.27
    7 75.1% Stuttgart + 24.9% Yemeni @ 11.42
    8 72.5% Stuttgart + 27.5% Moroccan @ 11.45
    9 64.5% Sardinian + 35.5% Anatolia_ChL @ 11.48
    10 75.9% Stuttgart + 24.1% Uzbek @ 11.55
    11 66.3% Sicilian + 33.7% Anatolia_N @ 11.57
    12 72.8% Stuttgart + 27.2% Egyptian @ 11.79
    13 72.7% Stuttgart + 27.3% Algerian @ 11.85
    14 73.9% Stuttgart + 26.1% Nogai @ 11.89
    15 78.1% Stuttgart + 21.9% Hazara @ 11.89
    16 77.9% Stuttgart + 22.1% Uygur @ 11.92
    17 73.9% Stuttgart + 26.1% Libyan @ 11.94
    18 63.2% Jew_Ashkenazi + 36.8% Anatolia_N @ 11.98
    19 77% Stuttgart + 23% Tajik @ 12.02
    20 73.6% Stuttgart + 26.4% BedouinA @ 12.18

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    How good are the two samples? How many SNP:s used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    How good are the two samples? How many SNP:s used?
    Ancient samples always have low SNPs. But it still gives us an idea that ancient Sicilians, like Mycenaeans, were more Sardinian-shifted than the populations there today, but also already had significant Caucasian input.

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    they are distant from any reference population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    they are distant from any reference population.
    Yes. The same was true for Mycenaeans and Minoans.

    I think the only conclusion that can be drawn is that the population was likely initially Sardinian-like (EEF) and then received a large influx from the Caucasus.

    Everything else seems to be a later arrival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Ancient samples always have low SNPs. But it still gives us an idea that ancient Sicilians, like Mycenaeans, were more Sardinian-shifted than the populations there today, but also already had significant Caucasian input.
    Not always, there are many decent anicent samples. But the second one looks good. Basically Anatolian farmer + slight WHG and suprisingly enough already some Iran_N admix. Unsure if this one has a slight Steppe input.

    Eurogenes K15:
    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 33.93
    2 East_Med 24
    3 Atlantic 16.97
    4 West_Asian 10.98
    5 North_Sea 9.74
    6 Red_Sea 2.42
    7 Eastern_Euro 1.96

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan 15.18
    2 West_Sicilian 15.8
    3 South_Italian 16.64
    4 North_Italian 17.2
    5 East_Sicilian 17.34
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 17.49
    7 Sardinian 17.49
    8 Central_Greek 17.57
    9 Italian_Jewish 18.39
    10 Algerian_Jewish 18.57
    11 Greek 18.91
    12 Greek_Thessaly 19.27
    13 Sephardic_Jewish 20.16
    14 Ashkenazi 20.28
    15 Spanish_Andalucia 21.21
    16 Spanish_Extremadura 22.23
    17 Portuguese 22.67
    18 Spanish_Murcia 22.81
    19 Spanish_Valencia 23.35
    20 Tunisian_Jewish 23.56

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.3% Sardinian + 31.7% Armenian @ 5.57
    2 51.4% South_Italian + 48.6% Sardinian @ 5.57
    3 68.9% Sardinian + 31.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.83
    4 50.1% Sardinian + 49.9% Central_Greek @ 5.87
    5 68.1% Sardinian + 31.9% Assyrian @ 5.9
    6 50% Sardinian + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.97
    7 65.1% Sardinian + 34.9% Turkish @ 6.04
    8 68.3% Sardinian + 31.7% Azeri @ 6.07
    9 70.1% Sardinian + 29.9% Kurdish @ 6.16
    10 50.2% East_Sicilian + 49.8% Sardinian @ 6.18
    11 51.4% Sardinian + 48.6% Italian_Jewish @ 6.33
    12 69.1% Sardinian + 30.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.54
    13 71% Sardinian + 29% Iranian @ 6.59
    14 65.2% Sardinian + 34.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.74
    15 53% West_Sicilian + 47% Sardinian @ 6.79
    16 69.6% Sardinian + 30.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.81
    17 54.1% Sardinian + 45.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.84
    18 54.3% Sardinian + 45.7% Ashkenazi @ 7
    19 60.6% Sardinian + 39.4% Cyprian @ 7.04
    20 51.8% Sardinian + 48.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 7.38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Ancient samples always have low SNPs.
    Do you know why this is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Yes. The same was true for Mycenaeans and Minoans.

    I think the only conclusion that can be drawn is that the population was likely initially Sardinian-like (EEF) and then received a large influx from the Caucasus.

    Everything else seems to be a later arrival.

    Because their genome, or better the ratio of the various components, is still far from modern populations.

    Not to mention that, as I know, these Sicilian Bell Beakers are women. So they could be just locals, initially Sardinian-like (EEF), mixed with new arrivals. There was likely a Bell Beaker phenomenon that seems not be not indo-europeanized, probably the oldest phases of the Bell Beaker, and then a Kurgan-like Bell Beaker wich is dominated by R1b males.

    Then every calculator on Gedmatch obviously has different values ​​even for the same ethnicities or sub-ethnic groups, and none of these is really 100% accurate, so we need to focus more on the big picture.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Do you know why this is?

    Because ancient genome is obtained through the analysis of a few bone remains, sometimes even a tooth, which can often be contaminated, and in any case before being uploaded to Gedmatch raw data must be converted to a suitable format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    they are distant from any reference population.
    Because of this
    Sicily Beakers (Sicilian beakers all have very low SNP numbers...):

    Z251090 - I4930 - 5894 SNPs (Low), 41.32% Italian, 22.21% West_Med, 8.6% North_African, 5.65% North_Caucasian, 4.4% Armenian, 3.26% West_Caucasian, 1.59% East_Med
    Z618185 - I4933 - 118 SNPs (LOW), 50% West_Med, 19.54% Arabian, 16.94% East_Balkan, 13.09% Malayan
    Z747726 - I4936 - 991 SNPs (LOW), 24.64% West_Med, 17.54% Italian, 12.89% West_Caucasian, 12.68% Basque, 12.05% Armenian, 10.75% Arabian, 1.99% Iberian

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    The samples are 3, not 2. And they are super low quality.

    Z251090 6615 SNPs used in this evaluation
    Z618185 136 SNPs used in this evaluation
    Z747726 1104 SNPs used in this evaluation

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