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Thread: Outlying Sicilian/Calabrese GEDMatch result -- extremely MENA/almost NO STEPPE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    It pops up very often in the top 5 of Mainlanders at least Peloponnesians as well.

    They get it in their to 5 among with Abruzzo often as their closest 2.

    Alot of them get Central Greek even at number 1.


    Sikeliot posted some Southern Mainland Greek results in a thread of mine which got Albanian in their top 5 and Bulgarian in their top 10
    to prove that they are more "Northern" Balkan shifted than Sicilians but even all of his results got Central Greek first before Albanian or
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    I can find these results and post them.
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    Wow almost no east Balkan admixture

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    My MDLP K16 Steppe is very low as well- 11.77.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    Fair enough. So you would rate MDLP as being the most valid calculator for Southern Italian populations?
    One of them, yes.

    Did you see the Bronze Age Sicilian sample? It was a mixture of Caucasus and Sardinian/EEF. This should tell us of which components came first. Then, southern Calabria (considered the oldest/most preserved south Italian group) has high SW Asian/Levantine also, but low Steppe.

    So I think south Italy started out Sardinian-like, then acquired Caucasian, then SW Asian/Levantine, and then I think North Euro input and North African are the most recent things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    One of them, yes.

    Did you see the Bronze Age Sicilian sample? It was a mixture of Caucasus and Sardinian/EEF. This should tell us of which components came first. Then, southern Calabria (considered the oldest/most preserved south Italian group) has high SW Asian/Levantine also, but low Steppe.

    So I think south Italy started out Sardinian-like, then acquired Caucasian, then SW Asian/Levantine, and then I think North Euro input and North African are the most recent things.
    YEs, and if I recall correctly his first match was a Cypriot. Probably due to the high caucasian input the Sicilians received later as you say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    YEs, and if I recall correctly his first match was a Cypriot. Probably due to the high caucasian input the Sicilians received later as you say
    The Bronze Age Sicily sample could be modeled as Armenian and Sardinian mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmv74 View Post
    My MDLP K16 Steppe is very low as well- 11.77.


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    11.5% for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Are Greeks from Smyrna different genetically than mainland Greeks?
    Significantly different. In general Mainland Greeks typically cluster with Albanians, Central Italians, Bulgarians (less so), Kossovars, and less so with Sicilians, Aegean Islanders, Cretans (with some exceptions), Cypriots, Anatolians (very distant).
    Punt DNAL K15 Single Pop Sharing Tuscan 2.07
    Mixed Mode Pop Sharing: 65.1% Tuscan+34.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.41
    Eurogenes K 13 Single Pop Sharing Greek Thessaly 3.72
    Mixed Mode Pop Sharing 69.5% South_Italian+30.5% Hungarian @ 2.56
    MDLP K 16 Single Pop Sharing Greek (Greece) 3.62
    Mixed Mode Pop Sharing: 58.3% Greek (Macedonia)+41.7% Italian (Bergamo)@ 2.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleenex View Post
    Significantly different. In general Mainland Greeks typically cluster with Albanians, Central Italians, Bulgarians (less so), Kossovars, and less so with Sicilians, Aegean Islanders, Cretans (with some exceptions), Cypriots, Anatolians (very distant).
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