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This from my Livingdna on gedmatch genesis. It must be wrong.
# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 98.44
2 SSA 1.56
Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sardinian @ 0.403510
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sardinian +50% Sardinian @ 0.403510
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It is the current positions of the components that counts. The modern Sami are concentrated in Europe and nowhere else.
Oh, it means everything Philosophy time. Europe is primarily a geographic concept. A racial European is a person who is (at a fine scale) genetically very similar to a population which is concentrated in Europe. And in modern Europe, not yonks ago. Who lived where when Satan roamed the earth is irrelevant to modern European genetic identities.
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Using FST is obviously a more accurate way of doing it, but we cannot use the HGs to represent the ultimate Europeans. There is no point having a skeleton on the throne, if you see what I mean.
A barbarian outlier GEDmatch works well with averaged results but can be erratic for individuals.I think a Scot just broke your calculator.
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Non Auro, Sed Ferro, Recuperanda Est Patria (Not by Gold, But by Iron, Is the Nation to be Recovered) - Marcus Furius Camillus (Roman General)
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If current positions count then please add all of North Atlantic admixture that Mestizos in Latin America score.
These guys in Australia also tend to score quite a lot of North Atlantic, together with Oceanian / Australoid:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-GEDmatch-kits
Siberia was a Russian colony and Russians mixed with locals, just like Latin America was an Iberian colony.
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This is almost a philosophical question, to me it's clear European means the indigenous people who live there for maybe 20-30k, we don't even know exactly but long enough. If Europe had been populated by Africans or Asians they would be the "Europeans", these HG people were the most different from both, so i don't know how we could base it on something supposed to be more European if it's either closer to African and/or Eastern Eurasians (since anything more modern is closer), that would be weird, and wrong, i think. Also for most of us except if you really go at the extreme end of the European spectrum, it is our dominant type of ancestry.
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I can see your point of view but it is a very academic one and we do not ordinarily think so far back in time when we identify with ancestors. Vikings/Saxons/Celts/Romans etc. are the usual references. Could Neanderthals not be considered the true Europeans?
On the subject of inheritance from ancient populations, this was the quote about Cheddar Man:
"Tests on the DNA of modern Britons reveal we have around 10 per cent of our DNA in common with Cheddar Man and his tribe."
Also, there is this from the Irish DNA Atlas study:
"The team did compare the modern group with two ancient genomes from Ireland. One came from a person who lived near Belfast during the Neolithic, around 5,000 years ago. The other was from a person who lived on Rathlin Island in the late Bronze Age, from 2000 to 1500 B.C. The scientists were hopeful they’d find genetic affinity, or relatedness, between the Bronze Age genome and modern inhabitants of the region where those bones had been found. No dice. The ancient genomes mainly served as a nice background reference to highlight variances between the modern groups."
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...etics-science/
These statements appear to contradict the idea that we have inherited a lot of DNA from the ancient populations.
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