So are slavic speakers of Fyrom bulgarians or not?

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Northern ones definitely have close ties to Serbs, especially from region of Skopska Crna Gora. I also heard that Macedonian tribe of Mijaks has epic poetry about Serbian rulers from medieval times and i think that this tribe had Slava which is a thing only Serbs have.

I think they have "imendan", not Slava ?

[Morlak]

I think they have "imendan", not Slava ?

I am not sure, Jovan Cvijic says they had Slava. I know that couple of relevant Macedonian Serbs come from Mijak tribe such us Toma Smiljanic Bradina and Chetnik Vojvoda Doksim Mihailovic. Even to this day some Mijaks identify as Serbs.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I am not sure, Jovan Cvijic says they had Slava. I know that couple of relevant Macedonian Serbs come from Mijak tribe such us Toma Smiljanic Bradina and Chetnik Vojvoda Doksim Mihailovic. Even to this day some Mijaks identify as Serbs.

Possible, but i guess it's some minority. As i know their national feast is "Imendan".

[HERK]

Macedonians are mainly Serbs, they even look alike physically but i don't know about the Macedonians that live close to the Bulgarian border.

[Aspar]

Macedonians are mainly Serbs, they even look alike physically but i don't know about the Macedonians that live close to the Bulgarian border.

Not true at all.
Especially you should know better since you are from Macedonia.
Those with origin around Skopje, Tetovo or Kumanovo definitely are close to the Serbs but that's not the case with the rest.
I suggest to the OP if he is honest in his interest about us, to start calling the country Macedonia and maybe he will learn something more about us...

[Faklon]

They are Bulgarian-speaking people with folk heroes the Emperors of the Bulgarian empires, they try to conform into modernity and create an ethnic by copying Greece's idolizations of antiquity and making it 100^2 times more stupid.

Imagine modern Greece taking the Rennaisance idea of ancient Greece, put it in photoshop and gently removing "imperfections" that don't fit the idea. Vardarska is similar but you have MS Paint with huge black dots and ambiguous connecting lines.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Do their genes show turkic admixture?

You'd be hard pressed to find Turks with Turkic admixture, do you believe non-Turks stand a chance?

[Universe]

bump

[pulstar]

I have seen many claim they are bulgarians. Macedonians themselves ,from what i've seen, say they are not bulgarians.
Ethnic maps from 19th century shows they are bulgarians
What do you think?

Why did you ask the question if you answered it yourself?

[Jana]

No they aren't because they don't identify as such. But they descend from similar people like Bulgarians do and Bulgarians are their closest relatives.
Genetically Slavic Macedonians are bit closer to Aromanian than Bulgarian average based on samples we have so far, meaning they are bit more Paleo-Balkan shifted.

Distance to: MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

2.54803846 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
3.00547833 Bulgaria_Southcentral
3.58786845 Bulgaria_average
3.85508755 Bulgaria_Northeastern
3.91024296 Bulgaria_Southeastern
3.96550123 Pomak_Nevrokopi
3.99444614 Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.03965345 Bulgaria_Northcentral
4.34452529 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
4.40102261 Romania_Muntenia
4.60108683 Albanian_Gheg
4.62601340 Romania_Wallachia
4.73324413 Bosniak_Sandzak
4.75791971 Romania_Dobruja
5.12301669 Moldova_South
5.28176107 Romania_Oltenia
5.28778782 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.41785936 Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.42959483 Albanian
5.56447662 Torbesh_average
5.69137945 Romania_Banat
5.71538275 Pomak_average
6.05716931 Montenegrin