Asena/Ashina (Turkic Xiongnu extraction) Royal Y-dna: Q ?

[Austrvegr]

Kagan is a common Ashkenazi surname.
Khazar origin?

Jewish Kagan is distorted Kohen, priest. Nothing to do with the Iranic Hva-Kama > Kagan.

[AK-47]

Jewish Kagan is distorted Kohen, priest. Nothing to do with the Iranic Hva-Kama > Kagan.

Jewish Surnames Explained:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_v..._surnames.html

Jewish family names from non-Jewish languages included: Sender/Saunders — from Alexander; Kagan — descended from the Khazars, a Turkic-speaking people from Central Asia; Kelman/Kalman — from the Greek name Kalonymous, the Greek translation of the Hebrew shem tov (good name), popular among Jews in medieval France and Italy; Marcus/Marx — from Latin, referring to the pagan god Mars.

[AK-47]

Jewish Kagan is distorted Kohen, priest. Nothing to do with the Iranic Hva-Kama > Kagan.

The Khazar royalty were converts to Judaism, perhaps that distortion surname found in Russian Jews was started by them for their priestly class?

[Yaglakar]

Ashina < Iranic Akhshayna, Blue ( > Turkic Kok). They were Aryan Kagans ( < Iranic Hva-Kama, Self-Powerful, i.e. Autocrats) of subjugated Turco-Mongols.

Laughable absurd gallimaufry of nonsense. But the fact that the earliest eastern Slav polity was established by Varangians (Vikings) who adopted political and organizational structure of Khazar Khaganate, inheriting Khazar cities including Kiev is a solid fact.


J. Brutzkus. The Khazar Origin of Ancient Kiev. page 111

Regarding pathetic attempts of Soviet regime to hide the truth about early Slavic history:


Wladyslaw Duczko. 2004. Viking Rus: Studies on the Presence of Scandinavians in Eastern Europe. Brill. page 11

[Pahli]

Lol at the Huns invading the Persian Empire, they failed and their Central Asian branch was butchered. Sarmatians still lived in North Caucasia / others migrated to Eastern Europe.

There's some discussion about the Ashina tribe being Saka of origin, although there's no proper evidence for that.

[Austrvegr]

Laughable absurd gallimaufry of nonsense.

Such a well-substantiated argument. So Turco-Mongolic.

[gültekin]

Such a well-substantiated argument. So Turco-Mongolic.

Slavs literally have NOTHING to do with any kind of "Scythian", nor culturally neither genetically. For years your Slavic blogger-God Davidski used to portray the Scythians as some kind of Slavic-like people genetically but turned out they had nothing to do with you pseudo-Aryan marsh peoples.

Slavs have never been nomadic, they have always been subjugated by nomadic horse people (be it under the name of Scythian, Hun, Cuman etc). All the Scythian samples so far resemble modern Turkic populations, even the westernmost samples resemble modern Tatars and Ural folks. Slavs do not belong the Steppes. They did not even have horse archers as part of their culture.

Yamnaya samples have at least 30% Gedrosia/SCA like admixture whereas modern Slavs (Scythian wannabe pseudo Aryans) have almost 0%. This pseudo Indo-European Slav(e) piece of shit used to mock Anatolian Turks but even Anatolian Turks have legit and direct Steppe (Oghuz) ancestry, unlike these pseudo-steppe people who have never been part of the steppes.

[Leto]

Slavs literally have NOTHING to do with any kind of "Scythian", nor culturally neither genetically. For years your Slavic blogger-God Davidski used to portray the Scythians as some kind of Slavic-like people genetically but turned out they had nothing to do with you pseudo-Aryan marsh peoples.

The recent Kashkarchi samples from the Fergana Valley prove otherwise. They were white and R1a.
https://eurogenes.blogspot.ru/2018/0...-of-india.html

I4153 U5b2b R1a1a1b Kashkarchi_BA 1200-1000 BCE Uzbekistan
I4255 N1a1a1 R1a1a1b Kashkarchi_BA 1200-1000 BCE Uzbekistan

[Pahli]

Kashkarchi_BA from Ferghana Valley is extremely close to Andronovo samples;

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 54.04
2 West_Asia 18.75
3 SW_Europe 16.84
4 South_Asia 4.16
5 Americas 4.07
6 West_Africa 1.94
7 SW_Asia 0.16
8 East_Africa 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovian 13.34
2 Russian 14.7
3 Ukrainian 14.88
4 Belarusian 15.21
5 Polish 16.14
6 Slovak 16.86
7 German_North 17.81
8 Moldavian 18.03
9 Estonian 18.27
10 Norwegian 18.59
11 Slovene 18.63
12 Swedish 18.8
13 Lithuanian 19.01
14 Latvian 19.17
15 Tatar 19.23
16 Hungarian 19.63
17 Irish 20.7
18 Bosnian 20.87
19 Scottish 20.9
20 Utahn_European 20.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.8% Lithuanian + 29.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 6.35
2 70.6% Latvian + 29.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 6.38
3 71.8% Estonian + 28.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 6.45
4 67.3% Latvian + 32.7% Tadjik @ 6.72
5 75.2% Lithuanian + 24.8% Makrani @ 6.75
6 67.5% Lithuanian + 32.5% Tadjik @ 6.76
7 76% Estonian + 24% Makrani @ 6.77
8 72% Lithuanian + 28% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 6.78
9 71.8% Latvian + 28.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 6.8
10 74.6% Latvian + 25.4% Balochi @ 6.81
11 74.8% Lithuanian + 25.2% Balochi @ 6.81
12 73% Estonian + 27% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 6.86
13 75% Latvian + 25% Makrani @ 6.86
14 72.7% Lithuanian + 27.3% Pathan @ 6.91
15 73.6% Estonian + 26.4% Pathan @ 6.92
16 75.7% Estonian + 24.3% Balochi @ 6.92
17 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Brahui @ 6.92
18 75.3% Latvian + 24.7% Brahui @ 6.94
19 68.6% Estonian + 31.4% Tadjik @ 6.97
20 72.6% Latvian + 27.4% Pathan @ 6.99

The only thing that differences these Steppe samples from Eastern Europeans is that they have more Gedrosian / CHG admixture over Anatolian farmer admixture, otherwise they're almost the same genetically

[Leto]

Kashkarchi_BA from Ferghana Valley is extremely close to Andronovo samples;

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 54.04
2 West_Asia 18.75
3 SW_Europe 16.84
4 South_Asia 4.16
5 Americas 4.07
6 West_Africa 1.94
7 SW_Asia 0.16
8 East_Africa 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovian 13.34
2 Russian 14.7
3 Ukrainian 14.88
4 Belarusian 15.21
5 Polish 16.14
6 Slovak 16.86
7 German_North 17.81
8 Moldavian 18.03
9 Estonian 18.27
10 Norwegian 18.59
11 Slovene 18.63
12 Swedish 18.8
13 Lithuanian 19.01
14 Latvian 19.17
15 Tatar 19.23
16 Hungarian 19.63
17 Irish 20.7
18 Bosnian 20.87
19 Scottish 20.9
20 Utahn_European 20.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.8% Lithuanian + 29.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 6.35
2 70.6% Latvian + 29.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 6.38
3 71.8% Estonian + 28.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 6.45
4 67.3% Latvian + 32.7% Tadjik @ 6.72
5 75.2% Lithuanian + 24.8% Makrani @ 6.75
6 67.5% Lithuanian + 32.5% Tadjik @ 6.76
7 76% Estonian + 24% Makrani @ 6.77
8 72% Lithuanian + 28% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 6.78
9 71.8% Latvian + 28.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 6.8
10 74.6% Latvian + 25.4% Balochi @ 6.81
11 74.8% Lithuanian + 25.2% Balochi @ 6.81
12 73% Estonian + 27% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 6.86
13 75% Latvian + 25% Makrani @ 6.86
14 72.7% Lithuanian + 27.3% Pathan @ 6.91
15 73.6% Estonian + 26.4% Pathan @ 6.92
16 75.7% Estonian + 24.3% Balochi @ 6.92
17 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Brahui @ 6.92
18 75.3% Latvian + 24.7% Brahui @ 6.94
19 68.6% Estonian + 31.4% Tadjik @ 6.97
20 72.6% Latvian + 27.4% Pathan @ 6.99

The only thing that differences these Steppe samples from Eastern Europeans is that they have more Gedrosian / CHG admixture over Anatolian farmer admixture, otherwise they're almost the same genetically

I don't see anyone claiming that Scythians were Slavs or anything like that. People just say they were more European than any modern Iranic group which makes sense. But the Kashkarchi weren't even Scythians, in 1200-1000 BC the Scythians didn't exist as a group, I think those guys were some late Andronovo offshoot or something like that. But definitely Indo-Iranian.