Which is more accurate Genesis or Normal Gedmatch

**Decius** · 04-24-2018, 02:37 AM

which one I get pretty different results

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 04-24-2018, 03:35 AM

Not sure. Probably Genesis, since it's newer though...

**Decius** · 04-24-2018, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Not sure. Probably Genesis, since it's newer though...

I thought normal gedmatch was newer. Do you get different results from each? I get really different results

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 04-24-2018, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Decius

I thought normal gedmatch was newer. Do you get different results from each? I get really different results

My results are slightly different on the different ones. South Dutch is my first Eurogenes K15 population on Genesis, whereas on regular West German is my first Eurogenes K15 population.

**TeutonicBoyars** · 04-24-2018, 01:27 PM

Honestly I'm a bit concerned that these 'newer' calculators will make GEDmatch a totally unreliable service for me if they're ever merged. GEDMatch's normal calculators are reasonably accurate, but Genesis is just complete garbabge for me.

For example, on K15 my North Sea levels have been dropped considerably and now appear to have been added to my Atlantic scores. Furthermore, all of my Mediterranean and West Asian levels have also been dropped to a notable degree and appear to have been incorporated into the Eastern Euro category. I believe with these changes my kit is one of the most "Northern Euro" kits I have ever seen on GEDMatch - and my med scores are even lower than the Finnish or North-Swedish averages. As a result, my 4-way ancestors oracle predicts me to have absolutely ridiculous oracles given my background. My first closest 4 way mixture oracle is just Lithuanian and Basque. I have absolutely no known ancestry from these regions.

Genesis K13 is slightly better, but honestly not by much. My closest predictions are someone who is half Estonian Polish and Lithuanian, and half Galician Spanish + Danish.

Does anyone know if GEDMatch is also going to merge Genesis's calculators, or is it just the matching algorithm? Because like I said, if they're actually going to merge these calculators then I expect I, and possibly several other people, will find these calculators to be completely inaccurate from now on.

**Leto** · 04-24-2018, 02:15 PM

How the fuck can it be different if you upload the same raw data?

**Decius** · 04-24-2018, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

How the fuck can it be different if you upload the same raw data?

My normal gedmatch and gedmatch genesis are very different

**TeutonicBoyars** · 04-24-2018, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

How the fuck can it be different if you upload the same raw data?

Yeah, I don't get it either. I tried comparing other people's kits between the sites and their results were more or less the same. However, there were a few, mine included, that gave different results. I didn't actually upload a new kit to the Genesis site, I just logged into my account regularly and entered my kit number. Maybe if I manually upload the raw data to GEDMatch Genesis it will correct the result?

**StonyArabia** · 04-24-2018, 02:53 PM

For me the results were more or less the same

**Thracian** · 04-25-2018, 08:49 AM

Genesis is better than Gedmatch. At least I plot with Romanians, Macedonians and Bulgarians instead of Greeks for some calculators. However, I have still some weird plots such as Swiss or Italian as well.