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    Default Belarus Y-DNA

    From the Rozhansky study (2013) (n=1088)

    R1a - 50.7%
    I2 - 18.5%
    N - 10.4%
    R1b - 5.7%
    I1 - 5.6%
    E1b1b - 4.1%
    J2 - 2.2%
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    (G2a, J1, Q, T, etc.) - 2.8%

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    Is there data on breakdown of R1a into major subclades, such as:

    R1a-M458 -------------------------------> Slavic
    R1a-CTS3402 and R1a-YP343 ---------> Slavic
    R1a-M558 other than two above ------> Baltic
    R1a-Z92 --------------------------------> Baltic

    And also what percent of I2 is Slavic I2a-Y3120 (aka CTS10228)?

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    What about HG N? Is that Finnic? Or is it common in Slavs as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Is there data on breakdown of R1a into major subclades, such as:

    R1a-M458 -------------------------------> Slavic
    R1a-CTS3402 and R1a-YP343 ---------> Slavic
    R1a-M558 other than two above ------> Baltic
    R1a-Z92 --------------------------------> Baltic

    And also what percent of I2 is Slavic I2a-Y3120 (aka CTS10228)?
    No, I only have this brief summary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Moon View Post
    What about HG N? Is that Finnic? Or is it common in Slavs as well?
    It is mostly Baltic in this case. In general this goes to show that Belorussians are basically a Russian subgroup, 'cause if you look at the Y-DNA of Western or Northwestern Russian (perhaps even Central), you'll see a roughly similar picture while in the Baltic states the percentage of N will be much higher, like 40% or close to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Moon View Post
    What about HG N? Is that Finnic? Or is it common in Slavs as well?
    Branch N1c-M2783 is Baltic, while most of other branches of N1c-L1026 are Uralic (including Finnic).

    To the west of the Ural there exist also two older branches than L1026 - N1c-M2126 and N1c-L708.

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    For comparison Bryansk and Smolensk (Western Russia). The sample size is not very big though (n=86)

    R1a - 52.3%
    N - 16.3%
    I2 - 12.8%
    R1b - 4.6%
    I1 - 4.6%
    J2 - 4.6%
    E1b1b - 1.2%
    Other - 3.6%

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    A. I. Kushniarevich, Russian Journal of Genetics: Applied Research, 2012, Vol. 2, No. 2, pp. 114-121, about R1a-M458 in Belarus:

    "The migration processes of the later period could enhance the regional differences in the distribution of the studied molecular marker [subclade M458 of R1a] in the population of modern Belarusians. In particular, a significantly high frequency of the R1a-M458 haplogroup in Ponemanye and Eastern Polesie regions of Belarus can reflect a movement of the tribal communities with genetic characteristics close to those in the local population into the Neman River and Pripiat River basins. Such communities could be for example Polabian Slavs who left the territory between Elbe River and Oder River at the end of the First and beginning of the Second Millennia under the influence of the expansion of Germanic tribes [Saxons, etc.]. Toponymic parallels, as well as previous results of studies of linguistic and archaeological science, indicate the relationship between the Polabian Slavs and the population of modern Belarus (Jezowa M., 1962; Sedov, 1982; Perkhavko, 1983)."

    Polish (Masovian etc.) immigration could also explain higher levels of M458 in Ponemanye (= Grodno Region), but we cannot say the same thing about Eastern Polesie, which never had any significant Polish population. But the Radimiches lived there, and they are considered to be of West Slavic origin:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radimichs

    Some sources describe them as West Slavs.[1][2] According to Nestor the Chronicler, the tribe of Radimichs were Lachy (Lechitic), similar to Lendians and used to live in areas east from Vistula river. Due to some foreign invasion they moved to the East. (Original Russian text "радимичи же и вятичи — от рода ляхов. Были ведь два брата у ляхов — Радим, а другой — Вятко; и пришли и сели: Радим на Соже, и от него прозвались радимичи, а Вятко сел с родом своим по Оке, от него получили свое название вятичи.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Is there data on breakdown of R1a into major subclades, such as:

    R1a-M458 -------------------------------> Slavic
    R1a-CTS3402 and R1a-YP343 ---------> Slavic
    R1a-M558 other than two above ------> Baltic
    R1a-Z92 --------------------------------> Baltic

    And also what percent of I2 is Slavic I2a-Y3120 (aka CTS10228)?
    Which subclade was Rethel from?

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