VERY ATYPICAL Gedmatch from Mayo, Connnacht province, Ireland

[Grace O'Malley]

Ran some Bell Beakers and noticed the Med Shift mainly in Italian.

Italian K36
11.47 --- Bell Beaker Britain I2a (U5a1a1)
9.61 --- Iron Age Britain R1b U-152
7.80 --- Bell Beaker Britain R1b-L21 (H1)
6.31 --- Iron age Britain r1b u-106
5.58 --- Modern Ireland
5.56 --- Iron Age Britain r1b-L21
4.72 --- Iron Age Britain r1b-L21
4.12 --- Iron Age Britain r1b-L21
1.88 --- Bell Beaker Germany
0.00 --- Iron Age Anglo Saxon England I1-S107
0.00 --- Bell Beaker Britain r1b-L21 (J1c)
0.00 --- Bell Beaker Britain r1b-L21 (K1a26)
0.00 --- Bell Beaker Britain r1b-L21 (H1e1a)
0.00 --- Bell Beaker Britain r1b-L21 (T2b)
0.00 --- Bell Beaker Britain r1b-L21 (V)
0.00 --- BB r1b-L21 (U4b1b2)
0.00 --- Bell Beaker Britain r1b-L21 (HV0+195)
0.00 --- Bell Beaker Britain R1a1a
0.00 --- Bronze age Ireland R1b-L21

My Italian is very low at 0.69 on that and not near the modern Ireland result.

[Graham]

My Italian is very low at 0.69 on that and not near the modern Ireland result.

It is probably in your higher than average East Balkan (or whatever name it should have), you know how these things overlap and East Balkan is rare in bell beaker. But still it pulls you closer to Ireland than England or Scotland with (Italian + East Balkan) as Ireland is lower but also Norway & Denmark as they must have dodged it.

[Sikeliot]

Wales doesn't have any extra Iberian like input either. If you look at the Irish DNA Atlas they are similar to other British and Irish populations. Also this graphic was released earlier before the Irish DNA Atlas came out from the Irish Traveller study showing the Welsh to be very similar to the Irish and Scots.

England pulls south yet people obsess over the nonexistent Southernness of the Irish and welsh...

[Jana]

Wales doesn't have any extra Iberian like input either. If you look at the Irish DNA Atlas they are similar to other British and Irish populations. Also this graphic was released earlier before the Irish DNA Atlas came out from the Irish Traveller study showing the Welsh to be very similar to the Irish and Scots.

England pulls south yet people obsess over the nonexistent Southernness of the Irish and welsh...

wait, isn't Wales bit more southern shifted compared to other Celts or I got it wrong ?

Irish have more norse input the English do, but English have continental Germanic input that is low in Irish + some extra med, I guess (Roman , or something else) ?

[Sikeliot]

wait, isn't Wales bit more southern shifted compared to other Celts or I got it wrong ?

Irish have more norse input the English do, but English have continental Germanic input that is low in Irish + some extra med, I guess (Roman , or something else) ?

The southern shifting input in England likely arrived from Celtic groups from France. But even Germany has more South shifting ancestry than any brits or Irish.

English are clearly a mixture of Brittonic Celts and continental Germanic.

[Sikeliot]

wait, isn't Wales bit more southern shifted compared to other Celts or I got it wrong ?

Irish have more norse input the English do, but English have continental Germanic input that is low in Irish + some extra med, I guess (Roman , or something else) ?

The southern shifting input in England likely arrived from Celtic groups from France. But even Germany has more South shifting ancestry than any brits or Irish.

English are clearly a mixture of Brittonic Celts and continental Germanic.

[Albannach]

First time I have seen someone from either Ireland or the UK with a lower West Med Score than me, mine is 9.71, but I still get Irish as my top population with a distance of 3.93.

I'm also half West Irish so I wonder if a low West Med is common for people of a West Irish background.

[Sikeliot]

First time I have seen someone from either Ireland or the UK with a lower West Med Score than me, mine is 9.71, but I still get Irish as my top population with a distance of 3.93.

I'm also half West Irish so I wonder if a low West Med is common for people of a West Irish background.

Which province in Ireland?

[Kamal900]

Is this an actual ethnic Irishman, or is it the descendant of English settlers?

Must likely the guy has Viking ancestry.

[Albannach]

Which province in Ireland?

My mum's side is from the Connemara Gaeltacht, a place called Carna in Connacht.