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    Exclamation The Holocene Extinction

    The onset of the quaternary period was host to a large swath of animals and plants being wiped from the face of the earth. Creatures like the mammoth, thylacine, great auk, passenger pigeon, and black rhinocerus all driven to death by members of just one species. For the first time in its history, we are seeing a species become smart enough to alter the world, but not smart enough to do it right, nor to admit their problem and take responsibility beyond the immediate future. The projections of the Holocene extinction shows a future where only a fourth of all terrestrial will survive as a third of marine species will die alongside them. This sixth extinction poses a threat to all life on this planet, including us, if we are unwilling to change.

    A world like this requires us to halt the ever increasing human population, and create less wasteful agricultiral practices, for these are the most damaging factors. Recreating wild enviroments and reintroducing indigenous species, perhaps even working with de-extinction, could significantly help reduce the effect of humanity. But these can only go so far unless humans are kept in check, before we destroy ourselves, wiping out any future for our species.

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    Kali Yuga 2025

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    I read that russians want to revive mammoths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    I read that russians want to revive mammoths.
    Reviving the mammoth will do no good if they will just be hunted to extinction again. The problem requires solutions consisting of fundamental changes to human societies and population deeper than reviving extinct species and hoping they survive this time.

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    Vast majority of extinctions were naturally occurring, asteroid impacts and volcanic eruptions. What Humans have done is very minor.
    Some chimp and apes in African countries are in real danger due to poaching. The reason why Africa still has the large land mammals, and they vanished in America and Europe was asteroid impacts. And that is even not including what happened to the Dinos which predates all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gediminas View Post
    Reviving the mammoth will do no good if they will just be hunted to extinction again. The problem requires solutions consisting of fundamental changes to human societies and population deeper than reviving extinct species and hoping they survive this time.
    Probably the mammoths will live in Siberia.I have fear about this because they will not have a natural hunter, so probably they could turn in a super population like rabbits in Austrália and Wildboars in Us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Vast majority of extinctions were naturally occurring, asteroid impacts and volcanic eruptions. What Humans have done is very minor.
    Some chimp and apes in African countries are in real danger due to poaching. The reason why Africa still has the large land mammals, and they vanished in America and Europe was asteroid impacts. And that is even not including what happened to the Dinos which predates all of this.
    No extinction in the Quaternary has been asteroid related, that is a blatant lie.

    Megafauna survival in Africa can largely be explained as animals in Africa having developed alongside humans to be adapted for dealing with them, whereas animals outside were not
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4071532/
    There is no evidence for meteor impacts causing this rate of extinction, and to suggest it shows the same willful stupidity and stubbourness driving this mass dying. Tell me what meteor scrubbed the Thylacine and Marsupial Lion from Australia, or killed the Golden Frog and Black Rhinocerus this decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    Probably the mammoths will live in Siberia.I have fear about this because they will not have a natural hunter, so probably they could turn in a super population like rabbits in Austrália and Wildboars in Us.
    Wolves are natural predators of mammoth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gediminas View Post
    No extinction in the Quaternary has been asteroid related, that is a blatant lie.

    Megafauna survival in Africa can largely be explained as animals in Africa having developed alongside humans to be adapted for dealing with them, whereas animals outside were not
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4071532/
    There is no evidence for meteor impacts causing this rate of extinction, and to suggest it shows the same willful stupidity and stubbourness driving this mass dying. Tell me what meteor scrubbed the Thylacine and Marsupial Lion from Australia, or killed the Golden Frog and Black Rhinocerus this decade.
    Boulanger and Lyman compiled databases of radiocarbon dates from both megafaunal finds and Paleoindian sites for the northeast, throwing out any dates whose reliability had been or could be questioned. This gave a final sample of 57 megafauna dates from 47 different sites and 25 Paleoindian dates from 22 sites. When the two databases were compared, it became clear that most of the megafauna had already disappeared before humans came on the scene—suggesting that the humans had little to do with their demise.
    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/...-north-america

    tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1BkMqtWMns

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Boulanger and Lyman compiled databases of radiocarbon dates from both megafaunal finds and Paleoindian sites for the northeast, throwing out any dates whose reliability had been or could be questioned. This gave a final sample of 57 megafauna dates from 47 different sites and 25 Paleoindian dates from 22 sites. When the two databases were compared, it became clear that most of the megafauna had already disappeared before humans came on the scene—suggesting that the humans had little to do with their demise.
    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/...-north-america

    tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1BkMqtWMns
    these are not scientific sources so as far as im concerned you have given me pop-science garbage. give me a peer reviewed source like I did and ill consider looking at it

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