Low Birthrate in Europe

[Teutone]

What do you think is the reason for the low-birthrate in Europe.

It seems like most Men do blame Women for it and most Women blame the Men for it.

[TheMaestro]

In eastern Europe I think it is because of money, in western Europe I think people take kids something like loosing their freedom

[Teutone]

For me it is pure logic why all this is happening.

Troughout 10000 of years there wasnt any problem with the birthrate in Europe, because the whole gender roles and defintion of a family never changed.

The moment the birthrate went down, was the moment we questioned nature, gender roles and the nuclear family in General.

So the ONLY way to fix this is stop the damn experiments and make the government, society and media praising the nuclear family again.

[Teucer]

Contraception, the demands of modern life, the growing importance of careers, lack of incentives, in no particular order

[Teutone]

In eastern Europe I think it is because of money, in western Europe I think people take kids something like loosing their freedom

Most poor countries have a higher birthrate than rich countries, so it cannot be it.

[Moje ime]

In East - financial situation, non stable future for young families etc. In West - I don't know. Maybe base of problem is the same, the same reasons, because people today are used to lot of benefits in life. We have somewhat narcissistic generations.

But before 50-100 years it was less expensive to have kids. Today kids have more wishes, education is a must, good healthcare, holidays, even a good food (kids in past, at least in south and west were sometimes hungry). It is not easy to have much kids today. But in the same time I would say it is not even necessary.

For a simple reproduction it is enough for a couple to have two kids. With stopped immigration that would be enough.

I'm fine with praising a nuclear family but not as only solution. Best solution is that women who want to have kids should have huge benefits, couples as well.
I don't know how much it is present in West, but even more wouldn't be too much.

As far as I know there are even some taxes in Germany for non-married people?

[Teutone]

In East - financial situation, non stable future for young families etc. In West - I don't know. Maybe base of problem is the same, the same reasons, because people today are used to lot of benefits in life. We have somewhat narcissistic generations.

But before 50-100 years it was less expensive to have kids. Today kids have more wishes, education is a must, good healthcare, holidays, even a good food (kids in past, at least in south and west were sometimes hungry). It is not easy to have much kids today. But in the same time I would say it is not even necessary.

For a simple reproduction it is enough for a couple to have two kids. With stopped immigration that would be enough.

I'm fine with praising a nuclear family but not as only solution. Best solution is that women who want to have kids should have huge benefits, couples as well.
I don't know how much it is present in West, but even more wouldn't be too much.

As far as I know there are even some taxes in Germany for non-married people?

Tax cuts for parents, free Kindergarten, fulltime school coverage etc wont and never will do shit about boosting our birthrate.

The only way is stop the cultural-marxism

[Thilo_88]

Here in Costa Rica we got 1.1, this country used to be european, but it is not anymore. Main reasons being the races dont exist propaganda and feminism

[Dragoon]

[Moje ime]

feminism

Women need benefits, not oppression. Just forget idea of forcing anyone of anything. Think about how to make them want.

I don't know about West but for East and South of Europe (and Serbia) I'm sure there are women who would like to have even more children but can't because of unstable marriages, unresponsible husbands, economic factors and overall depression in the society. Then young couples go to West to work and have children there.

But I don't have answer for Germans in this case...