Low Birthrate in Europe

[Livin]

Germany and Greece are in the top of low birthrate....!!!

Western women want career,money,good life.
Feminism,Hollywood,lifestyle etc

1 or 2 kids at the age of 35...


And Muslims got 5 childer at the age of 22

[Cristiano viejo]

The reason is the brainwashing of media, the feminism and the lefties. All of that related each other, of course.

[Bobby Martnen]

Birth control is part of the reason, but not all of it.

It's also because people have become very hedonistic, so they pursue selfish goals instead of investing their time and money into raising more children.

[Dragoon]

I wrote a long response in detail but it erased...

Culture (lazy, me me attitude, pornography, radical feminism, young adults are like teenagers, delaying marriage/births to late age, etc)
Economy (both parents work, higher cost to maintain for middle class, some countries no get enough benefits)
Contraceptives
Chemicals *

Endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs) found in everyday items, including the plastics of food containers, personal care items, food products, as well as in manufacturing and industrial and agricultural processes.
Once released into the environment, exposure occurs via inhalation, absorbance, but mainly by ingestion from contaminated food and water. Most EDCs act via, interfere with, or mimic, steroid hormones – predominantly oestrogen and androgen pathways, or thyroid hormones.

Phytoestrogens,
Bisphenols/Phthalates (found in 90% of people, plastics, personal care products),
Parabens,
Persistant organic pollutants,
Pesticides/Herbices
Heavy metals
Fossil Fuels
EMF (mobile phones, microwaves, high power voltage lines, etc)

https://yourfertility.org.au/resourc...and-fecundity/

[Moje ime]

I wrote a long response in detail but it erased...

Culture (lazy, me me attitude, pornography, radical feminism, etc)
Economy (both parents work, higher cost to maintain for middle class, some countries no get enough benefits)
Contraceptives
Chemicals *

Endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs) found in everyday items, including the plastics of food containers, personal care items, food products, as well as in manufacturing and industrial and agricultural processes.
Once released into the environment, exposure occurs via inhalation, absorbance, but mainly by ingestion from contaminated food and water. Most EDCs act via, interfere with, or mimic, steroid hormones – predominantly oestrogen and androgen pathways, or thyroid hormones.

Phytoestrogens,
Bisphenols/Phthalates (found in 90% of people, plastics, personal care products),
Parabens,
Persistant organic pollutants,
Pesticides/Herbices
Heavy metals
Fossil Fuels
EMF (mobile phones, microwaves, high power voltage lines, etc)

https://yourfertility.org.au/resourc...and-fecundity/

Looks like a list of why we have expansion of cancer. Not related to birthrates at all. It is not that people can't have children, but they won't.

[RN97]

It's sorta funny how many people in western Europe see eastern Europe as the more "traditional Europe" that will preserve the European race. However just look at my two ethnic groups; Norwegian and Romanian. Norway has one of the highest birth rates, whilst Romania one of the lowest in Europe. Norway has lesser immigrants than Romania gypsies and they breed like rats while most immigrants (many of whom are eastern Europeans) don't have nearly as many kids as Gypsies in Romania. So Romanians are facing a growing number of gypsies, corruption, poverty and a low birth rate. IDK where the last bastion of Europeans is in eastern Europe, but certainly not in Romania or a lot of other EE countries for that matter.

[Jana]

East Europe has worse birth rate than west Europe overall. Reason there is money and lack of living space.

Stears and me want a child, but we live in one room flat and for child we need one extra room. In Budapest real estate is very expensive (unless you want to live in bad area). reaching western European levels and salaries are quite modest, even for people with University education.

Most young people live as renters. That's very unstable situation, if you get fired you end up on the street. We have our own beautiful apartment but it is too small for family of three.

I want children now (he does too), for a long time already, but simply there are no conditions for that yet. We hope in two year time we will be able to buy bigger apartment and start a family.

This is situation of most young professionals I know. Not to mention it is impossible ot survive on one salary, so women need to work even though many of us who finished college would prefer not to.

It is much harder to have children early now if you want to offer them secure and happy life. One is big problem, not to mention two or more! In countryside it may be easier. Urbanisation is killing birth rate, among other things.

[Cristiano viejo]

It's sorta funny how many people in western Europe see eastern Europe as the more "traditional Europe" that will preserve the European race. However just look at my two ethnic groups; Norwegian and Romanian. Norway has one of the highest birth rates, whilst Romania one of the lowest in Europe. Norway has lesser immigrants than Romania gypsies and they breed like rats while most immigrants (many of whom are eastern Europeans) don't have nearly as many kids as Gypsies in Romania. So Romanians are facing a growing number of gypsies, corruption, poverty and a low birth rate. IDK where the last bastion of Europeans is in eastern Europe, but certainly not in Romania or a lot of other EE countries for that matter.

Agreed... but it is the people in Eastern Europe who see Eastern Europe as the more "traditional Europe" that will preserve the European race, not the people of Western Europe. I am denouncing this since I dont remember it... Eastern Europe, with some notable exceptions, is equally fucked than Western Europe.

[Fieraru]

Is not the worst thing. Sometimes artificially maintained high birth rate can be bad for a country, as I have seen personally with orphans.
I don't think it will be a big problem in long run. Why you want everyone to have so many kids? Are you worried about competition or immigration from third-world country with growing populations?

But using policy to enforce or regulate birth rate is also not good: the one child policy in China cause a lot of problems. There are tens of million more men than women there.

[Livin]

The reason is the brainwashing of media, the feminism and the lefties. All of that related each other, of course.

Lefties?
Liberals are the main problem....!!!!

There are not left wing politicians in europe....exception Greece....!!!