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    Default Do Greeks embrace Levantine Greeks as fellow Greeks?

    Arabs call these people Rum (Romeoi), same word Turks used for 1000 years to describe Greeks.



    Antiochian Greek Christians, also known as Rûm, are an Arabic-speaking ethnoreligious Christian group from the Levant region. They are either members of the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch or the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, and they have ancient roots in the Levant, more specifically, the territories of Western Syria, northern and central Lebanon, and the southern Turkish province of Hatay, which includes the city of Antakya (ancient Antioch)- one of the holiest cities in Eastern Christianity. Many of their descendants now live in the global Near Eastern Christian diaspora, with Arabic becoming the lingua franca in the Levant, they primarily speak Arabic in its Levantine variant, with those within present day Turkish territory speaking Turkish.

    The designation "Greek" mostly refers to the use of Koine Greek in liturgy, and most Antiochian Greek Christians therefore identify themselves as natives.However, according to Greek historian Pavlos Karolidis writing in 1908, they are a mixture of ancient Greek settlers and particularly Macedonians, Roman-era Greeks, and Byzantine Greeks (Rûm). Karolidis was attempting to refute the Russian claims that they were of Aramaic origin, during the First Crusade era, most of them were referred to as Syriacs ethnically and Greeks only in regard to religious affinity: only the inhabitants of Antioch city were thought to be Greek ethnically.
    If Cypriots, Cretans etc are Greek normally these children of Byzantium in MENA should also be regarded as Greek imo. They speak Arabic but they aren't Arabs. They are Greek.

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    Interesting theory. I guess they're as Greek as you're a Turk. Most of your ancestry being MENA(45%):
    According to a 2012 study on ethnic Turkish people, "Turkish population has a close genetic similarity to Middle Eastern and European populations and some degree of similarity to South Asian and Central Asian populations."[2] At K = 3 level, using individuals from the Middle East (Druze and Palestinian), Europe (French, Italian, Tuscan and Sardinian) to obtatin a more representative database for Central Asia (Uygur, Hazara and Kyrgyz), clustering results indicated that the contributions were 45%, 40% and 15% for the Middle Eastern, European and Central Asian populations, respectively.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...Turkish_people

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    Not sure if many Greeks are aware of their existance, so the answer is probably no.

    However, they are always very welcomed to join us if they want.
    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Interesting theory. I guess they're as Greek as you're a Turk. Most of your ancestry being MENA(45%):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...Turkish_people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post

    If Cypriots, Cretans etc are Greek normally these children of Byzantium in MENA should also be regarded as Greek imo. They speak Arabic but they aren't Arabs. They are Greek.

    Then how are they Greek? At least Pontians for instance speak Greek and identify as such.

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    Interesting enough, until the 19th and early 20th centuries they even had Greek names. But during the late ottoman empire with its Greekophobia they forced them to change their names. Just like a few centuries earlier the Ottomans forced everyone in the region to speak Arabic in an attempt to homogenize the population which they thought would make it easier to control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haider View Post
    Interesting enough, until the 19th and early 20th centuries they even had Greek names. But during the late ottoman empire with its Greekophobia they forced them to change their names. Just like a few centuries earlier the Ottomans forced everyone in the region to speak Arabic in an attempt to homogenize the population which they thought would make it easier to control.
    Kind of a similar fate to the Greeks of Egypt I presume.
    Being Greek is an experienced grounded into nation, not consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanas Django View Post
    Kind of a similar fate to the Greeks of Egypt I presume.


    Pretty much, though most had left Egypt during the reign of Jamal Abdul Nasser.

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    no thanks, ethnikid

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