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    What i also found weird is how we managed to assimilate only Sandzak Albanians but not others. It seems that this process started much before Serbs liberated those areas in 1912.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    I don't know but if you look at the link i posted earlier from Bosniak DNA about Bosniak families from Sandzak it shows that all of them except two C are E1b1b.

    Almost all of non e1b1b are from Serbian DNK project.
    These are some of the non E1b1b and C people from Sanxhak on that project:

    J2b2:
    Hot Bukovica/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Sokolović ? Kovače/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Sejdović ? Raškoviće/Sjenica/Sandžak/SRB
    Bulić Numan Bula Paljevo/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Aličković Aličko Crniš Crniš/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Hodžić ? Ljeskova/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Ademović Ribariće/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB Župa/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Memić ? Novi Pazar/Sandžak/SRB
    Preljević Jašar Preljo Veseniće/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Hot Tutin
    Škrijelj ? Javarova/Petnjica/Sandžak/CG
    Bećirović Rugova/Kosovo Brniševo/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Tutić Rugova/Kosovo Potreb/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Hasanović Rugova/Kosovo Skrijelje

    Etc. Look here http://bosnjackidnk.com/baza-bez-markera/. There are multiple R1b, I2, J2b2 etc people from Sanxhak
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    http://bosnjackidnk.com/category/prezimena/sandzak/
    https://dnk.poreklo.rs/naslovna/ in order to check here you have to type "Муслиман" and be sure that he is from Sandzak area not Bosnia.
    The link from the Bosniak project just shows surnames and the origin of these families, it isn't the actual Ydna results table. This is the actual table http://bosnjackidnk.com/baza-bez-markera/
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    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ermanaric View Post
    Your Y dna is Slavic, and you live in fantasy that I2a1b is Illyrian.
    Genetics is very young and biased (both localy and among the scientists) ... it's closely attached to politics and religions.

    In 10 years from now... we might be all laughing to everything we have been taught about Genetics and Haplogroups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    These are some of the non E1b1b and C people from Sanxhak on that project:

    J2b2:
    Hot Bukovica/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Sokolović ? Kovače/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Sejdović ? Raškoviće/Sjenica/Sandžak/SRB
    Bulić Numan Bula Paljevo/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Aličković Aličko Crniš Crniš/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Hodžić ? Ljeskova/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Ademović Ribariće/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB Župa/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Memić ? Novi Pazar/Sandžak/SRB
    Preljević Jašar Preljo Veseniće/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Hot Tutin
    Škrijelj ? Javarova/Petnjica/Sandžak/CG
    Bećirović Rugova/Kosovo Brniševo/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Tutić Rugova/Kosovo Potreb/Tutin/Sandžak/SRB
    Hasanović Rugova/Kosovo Skrijelje

    Etc. Look here http://bosnjackidnk.com/baza-bez-markera/. There are multiple R1b, I2, J2b2 etc people from Sanxhak
    Oh i see, i will have to update the opening post

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    Here are the updated results.
    Also i am noob so idk how to edit opening post or if its even possible....

    189 samples
    E1b1b....41%(78)
    R1b.......16%(32)
    I2..........12% (24)
    J2b.........10% (19)
    I1............5% (10)
    J2a.........5% (10)
    R1a.........2%(5)
    G2a.........2%(5)
    T.............1%(2)
    C..............1%(2)
    H.............0.5%(1)
    J1.............0.5%(1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Genetics is very young and biased (both localy and among the scientists) ... it's closely attached to politics and religions.

    In 10 years from now... we might be all laughing to everything we have been taught about Genetics and Haplogroups.
    Because you say grandmother is slavicized albanian, etc.. is probably why you have a higher percentage of South euro autosomal dna, like Albanians. Sure there is a lot of new things to discover, observe, and learn about genetics, but there are patterns out there now and they are visible for anyone to delve into.
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    Sancak Muslims are Muslim Serbs. They aren't Bosniaks. Only Bugomilian Sect (Manicheanist religion) shifts are true Bosniaks. They who are shift from Orthodox can't count as Bosniaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Sancak Muslims are Muslim Serbs. They aren't Bosniaks. Only Bugomilian Sect (Manicheanist religion) shifts are true Bosniaks. They who are shift from Orthodox can't count as Bosniaks.
    Any South Slav who is muslim can be Bosniak. They are nationality based on religion.

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    Bosniaks from Sandzak in reallity have no genetical relations with Bosniaks from Bosnia. That's the all point that they're in fact Albanians.

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