South Slavs are Illyrians not Albanians

[Bosniensis]

1. I2a1 was dominant Celtic haplogroup in Gaul and Greeks have said: "Illyrians and Celts are two group of peoples emerged from two brothers"

I don't see E1b EV13 located in Gaul en masse? But we have strong evidences for I2a1 and I2a2

2. Illyrians were Dinarid people (Like Constantine the Great and Diocletian) and we are the Homeplace of Dinaric race.

3. We spoke latin language, that is our language. 120.000 Vlachs that spoke latin in Serbia 1850 were predominantly I2a1 CTS 10228...
That was a HUGE discovery for us.

That means that at some point in time we all spoke Latin langauge

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

That guy is just throwing theories to the air without backing them with substancial evidence. On the first video he says at the end that Romanians used to speak in Serbian language before the 19th century which is absolutely not true and easily debunked. Old Slavonian was used for religious services just like Latin was used in the west, though the common vernacular used by the people on their daily life has always been Romanian, a language that is 75% latin.

[Bosniensis]

That guy is just throwing theories to the air without backing them with substancial evidence. On the first video he says at the end that Romanians used to speak in Serbian language before the 19th century which is absolutely not true and easily debunked. Old Slavonian was used for religious services just like Latin was used in the west, though the common vernacular used by the people on their daily life as always been Romanian, a language that is 75% latin.

We have these arguments (strong one)

1. I2a1 was dominant Celtic haplogroup in Gaul and Greeks have said: "Illyrians and Celts are two group of peoples emerged from two brothers"

I don't see E1b EV13 located in Gaul en masse? But we have strong evidences for I2a1 and I2a2

2. Illyrians were Dinarid people (Like Constantine the Great and Diocletian) and we are the Homeplace of Dinaric race.

3. We spoke latin language, that is our language. 120.000 Vlachs that spoke latin in Serbia 1850 were predominantly I2a1 CTS 10228...
That was a HUGE discovery for us.

That means that at some point in time we all spoke Latin langauge


Albanians are crying when they read those arguments.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

We have these arguments (strong one)

1. I2a1 was dominant Celtic haplogroup in Gaul and Greeks have said: "Illyrians and Celts are two group of peoples emerged from two brothers"

I don't see E1b EV13 located in Gaul en masse? But we have strong evidences for I2a1 and I2a2

2. Illyrians were Dinarid people (Like Constantine the Great and Diocletian) and we are the Homeplace of Dinaric race.

3. We spoke latin language, that is our language. 120.000 Vlachs that spoke latin in Serbia 1850 were predominantly I2a1 CTS 10228...
That was a HUGE discovery for us.

That means that at some point in time we all spoke Latin langauge


Albanians are crying when they read those arguments.

I wasn't talking about haplogroups but your haplogroup branch is found overwhelmingly in Slavic countries (especially among dinaric slavs), it has nothing to do with Celts.

Perhaps at some point Latin was a commonground language in the Balkan region but we know for a fact that Romance languages did not prevail in the region apart from Proto-Romanian that later became what we know as the modern Romanian language.

[Dibran]

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You're so fucking retarded that its not even a laughing matter anymore. Get help. You were already wiped the floor with and ran with tail between legs. I will shut your ass up once more with actual science and not fanciful delusions. I2a1b-Din Slavic has nothing to do with I2a1* You pea brain.

Your clade a typical branch of I2-Din-Slavic...

Notice the majority of I2Din in South Slavs belongs to the young PH908 clade.

The subclades get younger: The most common of which are formed between 150-450AD. MIDDLE AGES. I guess Russia has the most "Illyrians" You half-wit.

Subclades:

DinA3a (A356) ~ 80% 7,6mln 150/450CE Common in Eastern Europe
DinA3a1 (A493) Bosnia, Croatia, Greece, Montenegro, Ukraine, Czech Rep., Germany, Poland
DinA3a1a (Y6651) Czech Clan
DinA3a1b (A8740) Germany, Poland
DinA3b (A5913) ~ 10% Croatia, Russia, Montenegro, Ukraine
DinA3c (PH3310) ~ 5% 150/150CE Serbia
DinA3d (A13912) ~ 5% Croatia, Hungary






For a little icing on the cake since you like to claim Pure Dinarics are Illyrians. Again you show your retarded face. South Slavs don't have many Dinarics compared to Albanians. No, Albanians are not Dinarics for assimilating South-Slavs you fucking gypsy.

[Dibran]

I wasn't talking about haplogroups but your haplogroup branch is found overwhelmingly in Slavic countries (especially among dinaric slavs), it has nothing to do with Celts.

Perhaps at some point Latin was a commonground language in the Balkan region but we know for a fact that Romance languages did not prevail in the region apart from Proto-Romanian that later became what we know as the modern Romanian language.

Common sense is lost on him man. I literally posted the most up to date facts of his haplogroup in another and this thread. He is cancer.

[Bosniensis]

Common sense is lost on him man. I literally posted the most up to date facts of his haplogroup in another and this thread. He is cancer.

"Up to date"

You prayed to your Clinton statue in Kosovo and he whispered you the most up to date fact?

Do you think nobody has a brain to think except those who give you "up to date informations"

You are wrong....

Go find me E1b V13 Celts in Gaul? There is NONE... yet we have written confirmation that Illyrians and Celts share the same ancestry.

Albanians are severely deluded on this topic.

[Bosniensis]

Clades are unimportant.. mutations...

What is Important is Haplogroup.

For all I2 people (no matter the clade) share the same ancestry.

It is logical that some I2 people will have different clade if they moved to certain location and became disconnected from other I2 people, mutations emerged new clades formed.. but those are the same people.

All I2 branches are closer to J2 people than any E1b V13

[Dibran]

"Up to date"

You prayed to your Clinton statue in Kosovo and he whispered you the most up to date fact?

Do you think nobody has a brain to think except those who give you "up to date informations"

You are wrong....

Go find me E1b V13 Celts in Gaul? There is NONE... yet we have written confirmation that Illyrians and Celts share the same ancestry.

Albanians are severely deluded on this topic.

You literally have an extra chromosome. Yea I prayed to the Clinton statue and magically a fucking list of factual data based on the complete FTDNA database surfaced, at the hands of a reasonable South Slav no less. You fucking moron.

Bronze Age Dalmatia: J2b2(Most common in Gheg Albanians)

Neolithic Croatia: E-V13(Most common in Gheg Albanians)

Bronze Age Serbia: R1b-L23(Most common in Gheg Albanians)



Medieval Polish Slav: I2a1b-Din(Most common in Southern Slavs and Eastern Slavs)

Oldest I2a1b-Din - Niemcza_13 (900-1000 AD), I2a1b2-L621+, mtDNA J1c3e1

Location of Niemcza (to the west of Krosno):

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

If there are ancient hellenic records that say that Illyrians and Celts were the same it doesn't necessarily mean that it is true, especially when there's no genetic evidence pointing in that direction. By being the same they probably meant that they were equally seen as barbarians.

Can you provide the source of the written evidence you talk about?