South Slavs are Illyrians not Albanians

[Dibran]

What? Are you saying that South Slavs are Vlachs? I don't know about that man. I think some were assimilated but they are not mostly.

I do know Albanians have some links to proto Romanian speakers. They are like the Balkan natives who were not either Latinized or Slavized. I like them, they are good people and I have always gotten along

There are many mysteries we do not know about the history of the region

Likewise my friend. All my personal experiences with Romanians have been pleasant. Very nice people.

[Lavrentis]

I can say that the Albanians are even more native than the Greeks because almost every mainland Greek has some Slavic in him, especially those from the North.

Here are some northern Greek GEDmatch results from Macedonia. Ghegs Albanians are closer to Slavs than these Greeks. Just wait, I will post some Gheg Albanian results in a bit.

Greeks from Macedonia:

1)

1 Tuscan 7.33
2 Italian_Abruzzo 8.19
3 Greek 9.31
4 West_Sicilian 9.59
5 Central_Greek 10.74
6 East_Sicilian 10.78

1 75.8% Central_Greek + 24.2% French_Basque @ 5.54

2)

1 Greek_Thessaly 4.73
2 Central_Greek 8.65
3 Italian_Abruzzo 8.92
4 Greek 9.21
5 Ashkenazi 9.37
6 East_Sicilian 9.48

1 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% West_German @ 4.43


3)

1 Greek_Thessaly 4.44
2 Greek 6.39
3 Ashkenazi 7.85
4 Central_Greek 8.02
5 East_Sicilian 9.22
6 Bulgarian 9.51

1 82.3% Central_Greek + 17.7% Erzya @ 3.59







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[Kelmendasi]

Here are some northern Greek GEDmatch results from Macedonia. Ghegs Albanians are closer to Slavs than these Greeks. Just wait, I will post some Gheg Albanian results in a bit.

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Closer only due to the more northern shift. Gedmatch isn't really useful at similarities or relations as it's just based on values, haplogroups and ibd are better imo

[Kelmendasi]

Bosniensis, you have actually become a pretty bad troll. You keep talking about the same things lol

[Kelmendasi]

I2a1b-L621 has a peak in central Albania as well according to Eupedia. Does that mean they are not native to you as well?

Eupedia distributions aren't that good in Albania or other Balkan countries in general. I2a1b doesn't reach high levels in central Albania, the most it reaches is around 15% and that's in the south

[Dibran]

Closer only due to the more northern shift. Gedmatch isn't really useful at similarities or relations as it's just based on values, haplogroups and ibd are better imo

Are there any publicly available IBD sharing calculators available?

[Wrong]

Bosniensis is a Turk.

[Voskos]

I don't understand. Bosniaks are around 50% Albanian, 50% Polish.

[Kelmendasi]

They are native in balkan region, so they can claim to be what they are. The fact that they have gotten Slavic roots later on doesn't really change the paradigm.

It would be the same as saying that Iberians are not native to the Iberian peninsula because we've been Romanized.

Thing is that the South Slavs weren't Slavicized natives, if they were they would still at large carry native haplogroups or have lower amounts of Slavic admix

[Wrong]

I don't understand. Bosniaks are around 50% Albanian, 50% Polish.

Indeed, they are absolute mongrels. Especially this Bosniensis Turko.