Hungarians are NOT Finno-Ugrics. They just adopted a Ugric/Uralic language.

[Beauvais]

"They speak an Uralic substratum language"

That makes no sense. Does the author know what substratum means?

It makes absolute sense...

Almost half of Hungarian; or about 50% of Hungarian is non-Uralic in origin. About 40% of Hungarian is Indo-European word borrowings; and 10% Turkic word borrowings... the rest of Hungarian is mostly Ugric; with a few archaic Uralic. (that can also be spotted in Finnic like Finnish and Estonian; but not as accurately.)

[Beauvais]

Hungarian is neither African or Mongoloid , in fact we only can find majority Hungarian speakers in Europe with the exception of those that migrated elsewhere.

The Uralic language group is Mongoloid in origin, though. Look at other Ugrics like the Mansi and Khanty. They look half Caucasoid half Mongoloid. And of course the Samoyeds who are pure-bred reindeer herding; carrying N1c. And the Saami who are half Caucasoid half Mongoloid.

Finns look very European, but that's only because approx. 15% of their genome is Mongoloid / East Asian; and 85% of their genome is Caucasoid / European.

Here is a Khanty family photo:

Khanty_family.jpg

Now tell me, they don't have slanted eyes with Europid features like Blondism? They are obviously a mix of two races..

[magyar_lány]

Basically, one question I would like to ask you all (especially Hungarians): Would you rather Hungarians speak an Indo-European language (like Slavic) or would it be more appropriate for them to continue speaking a Mongoloid / East Asian language? (would today's Hungarians actually find speaking a Mongoloid tongue degrading? Or is it actually seen as an noble celebration of an ancient heritage/tradition?)

In the future; would it be preferable if Hungarians dropped their language and adopted a Slavic (or Indo-European) one? (Especially if they built an Empire with the Polish?)

The Mongoloid admixture in the Hungarians was actually quite rare. (last time I checked, Mongol genetics were actually really low. Perhaps about 5% or less, in the average Hungarian population. That's approximately 1 out of 50 Hungarians that have Mongoloid ancestry. Disclaimer: But this is an apparent statistic; and only a guess.)

Basically: Do Hungarians feel bothered by the fact that their tongue is Mongoloid (non-IE) in origin?

We don't want to change our own language. Hungarian is my mother tongue and part of my identity. I don't have problem with Asian originated language. It's saddening when somebody forget his/her mother tongue.

[Beauvais]

We don't want to change our own language. Hungarian is my mother tongue and part of my identity. I don't have problem with Asian originated language. It's saddening when somebody forget his/her mother tongue.

I guess I could agree with this myself. Hungarian is a pretty unique language.

But, does it not concern you that you are actually Indo-European- Western Slavic/Indo-Iranian (predominantly) in ancestry; and you are speaking a language that wasn't originally yours? Your ancestors just "assimilated/adopted it". (For example; it's almost like as if Polish people that start to speak Finnish; and about 40-50% of Polish loanwords are borrowed and replaced into this "new" Polish-Finnish "hybrid" language; at it becomes known as "Modern Finnish". Get it?)

I am guessing the orignal Hungarian language sounded similar to Mansi and Khanty; before there were Indo-European/Turkic word borrowings. (to feel in some of the gaps)

(Finnish has far more Uralic words in it's lexicon than Hungarian does. According to Wikipedia; only 21% of Hungarian maintains the actual original Uralic words: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungar...nguage#Lexicon)

[Yaglakar]

European Indo-European speakers were language cucked, the same way Indians were language cucked.

[Marmara]

R1 Y-DNA is originates from Brown skinned Polynesians, just like the Indo-European language family itself .

[Finnish Swede]

LOL (one ''mongoloids'' thread again). I'm waiting as Harkonnen will see this....


Until then ... popcorn anybody?

Or maybe hot dogs & coke?

[oszkar07]

The Uralic language group is Mongoloid in origin, though. Look at other Ugrics like the Mansi and Khanty. They look half Caucasoid half Mongoloid. And of course the Samoyeds who are pure-bred reindeer herding; carrying N1c. And the Saami who are half Caucasoid half Mongoloid.

Finns look very European, but that's only because approx. 15% of their genome is Mongoloid / East Asian; and 85% of their genome is Caucasoid / European.

Here is a Khanty family photo:

Khanty_family.jpg

Now tell me, they don't have slanted eyes with Europid features like Blondism? They are obviously a mix of two races..

Hungarian is not included in the Mongolic language group ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolic_languages

[Dandelion]

It makes absolute sense...

Almost half of Hungarian; or about 50% of Hungarian is non-Uralic in origin. About 40% of Hungarian is Indo-European word borrowings; and 10% Turkic word borrowings... the rest of Hungarian is mostly Ugric; with a few archaic Uralic. (that can also be spotted in Finnic like Finnish and Estonian; but not as accurately.)

How can an Uralic language itself have an Uralic substratum? You probably meant IE substratum, like how Latvian has a Finnic substratum and Azeri an Iranic substratum etc...

[Beauvais]

Hungarian is not included in the Mongolic language group ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolic_languages

I meant Mongoloid as a race. Mongoloid / East Asian. (i.e. Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Yakuts, Malay, Kyrgyz etc...)

Genetic and historical evidence proves that Uralic and Turkic were originally spoken by Mongoloids / East Asians. Not Caucasoids/Europids.

How can an Uralic language itself have an Uralic substratum? You probably meant IE substratum, like how Latvian has a Finnic substratum and Azeri an Iranic substratum etc...

Indeed, I messed up and made an error. But what I think I really meant to say was a "Ugric/Uralic" Superstatum of course.