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    'Magyar lany' does sound like a Japanese anime character. They speak a m0ng language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    R1 Y-DNA is originates from Brown skinned Polynesians, just like the Indo-European language family itself .
    R originates in north Asia, ANE carried R
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    R originates in north Asia, ANE carried R
    Ancestral North Eurasians carried R, derived from Basal North Eurasian Mal'ta-Buret culture who were brown Ket looking people. R is not European/Caucasian originally.

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    Original Indo-Europeans


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    Ancestral North Eurasians carried R, derived from Basal North Eurasian Mal'ta-Buret culture who were brown Ket looking people. R is not European/Caucasian originally.
    Yh, but it wasn't Polynesian as you said before
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    But, does it not concern you that you are actually Indo-European- Western Slavic/Indo-Iranian (predominantly) in ancestry; and you are speaking a language that wasn't originally yours? Your ancestors just "assimilated/adopted it". (For example; it's almost like as if Polish people that start to speak Finnish; and about 40-50% of Polish loanwords are borrowed and replaced into this "new" Polish-Finnish "hybrid" language; at it becomes known as "Modern Finnish". Get it?)
    Hungarian has been spoken near 2000 years in Europe itself.
    Many languages have changed dramatically within that time period eg modern english speakers most likely could not understand old english.
    Comparitively Hungarian langauge in Europe has not changed that dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Yh, but it wasn't Polynesian as you said before
    It's related to Polynesians. Original R people were dark skinned non-caucasoids, took many I women and whitened, became EHG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beauvais View Post
    I guess I could agree with this myself. Hungarian is a pretty unique language.

    But, does it not concern you that you are actually Indo-European- Western Slavic/Indo-Iranian (predominantly) in ancestry; and you are speaking a language that wasn't originally yours? Your ancestors just "assimilated/adopted it". (For example; it's almost like as if Polish people that start to speak Finnish; and about 40-50% of Polish loanwords are borrowed and replaced into this "new" Polish-Finnish "hybrid" language; at it becomes known as "Modern Finnish". Get it?)
    I'm not aware of the history of Hungary well enough to comment why they use their language today. What I have still hear/understood is that some groups have tried to deny their links to Uralics for long time now. Keeping that someway not as respectable background.

    Is speaking Uralic someway bad?

    I don't know Hungarian but as I have studied Finnish at school ... I can say it is not anyway primitive language versus any ''finer?'' Indo European language. Honestly partly even opposite ... it is just so dam difficult one. That's why Oxford English language professor J.R.R Tolkien loved it .... and used it partly as he created his elves language. Grammar is pretty clever...so to say.

    I don't know how South Americans or Mexicans feels today as speaking European languages. Or African Americans? Despite of that all of those groups are still alive and don't seemed to have any bigger mental traumas as doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    Original Indo-Europeans

    Not true. These people are just a mix of Altaic Mongols and Europid Caucasians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beauvais View Post
    Not true. These people are just a mix of Altaic Mongols and Europid Caucasians.
    They are almost 90% genetically related to Mal'ta boy, your grandfather

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