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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I2 is strong on Balkans.

    It looks like Slavs have dominated Greece
    I-people are not Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayman Vasconic View Post
    I-people are not Slavs.
    The I2a1b in Greece is mainly from Slavs
    23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results

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    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    The I2a1b in Greece is mainly from Slavs
    Probably - but they are not the Slavs. They could came with them, be slavic, but as I-people are not even Indo-Europeans, they cannot be true slavs, and obviously are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayman Vasconic View Post
    Probably - but they are not the Slavs. They could came with them, be slavic, but as I-people are not even Indo-Europeans, they cannot be true slavs, and obviously are not.
    Today I2a1b-Din is Slavic as it took part in the Slavic ethnos and was expanded by them, but of course haplogroup I itself isn't IE in origin.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    China has 12% of N? Interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Today I2a1b-Din is Slavic as it took part in the Slavic ethnos and was expanded by them, but of course haplogroup I itself isn't IE in origin.
    They don't understand context I am afraid. Broad generalizations, and pseudo-science is their only line of defense. Your logical mind and analytical nature is too much for their brains to process brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayman Vasconic View Post
    Probably - but they are not the Slavs. They could came with them, be slavic, but as I-people are not even Indo-Europeans, they cannot be true slavs, and obviously are not.
    Slavs only formed in the middle ages. Even Proto-Slavs only existed in the early middle ages. No haplogroup is technically anything. If you go back far enough, all haplogroups pre-date the formations of cultures. It is the specific clade or subclade that determines what cultures it likely moved with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayman Vasconic View Post
    Probably - but they are not the Slavs. They could came with them, be slavic, but as I-people are not even Indo-Europeans, they cannot be true slavs, and obviously are not.
    I2a1b Dinaric may even be the core Slavic haplogroup as it has been found in some of the oldest DNA samples we have of Slavs from medieval Poland and Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JQP4545 View Post
    I2a1b Dinaric may even be the core Slavic haplogroup as it has been found in some of the oldest DNA samples we have of Slavs from medieval Poland and Russia.

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    About half of the countries on Y-Full map have less than 100 samples.

    Zero reliance to be put.

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