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Thread: Are these textiles of Arab, Berber, or native European origin in their style?

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    In fact, seems Berber.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Marr...w=1280&bih=887

    I remember some patterns when I went to Marrakech, but of course you can't say "everything is X" cause we never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Well you find very similar things sold in shops throughout Iberia
    false, nobody in iberia buys that, maybe you find it in some hippie stall for weird people or tourists, normal people use modern things or classic style, not aladdin's carpet

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    Well the most known/famous Portuguese carpets are the ones from Arraiolos. The Portuguese tapestry embroidered by hand only officially dates from the beginning of the 17th century.
    A little bit of their history.

    XVII Century
    The rugs of this era are based on Asian carpets (Persian, Caucasian, Turkish) or inspired by Manueline motifs. The colors are magnificent, cheerful and very well combined. Those of Persian inspiration are characterized by animal motifs, very elegant arabesques stuck to each other with mangy, repetitive medallions, manueline motifs with stylized rosettes and ropes. The fringes began to be made into small looms. The contours begin to stop being in point of flower foot, happening to be in point of Arraiolos.

    XVIII Century.
    First phase.

    In this period the carpets of Arraiolos, although they were of erudite character and continued to be executed with oriental motives as before, stopped being made in cheerful colors, and started in dead colors, inexplicably, because no reason for this is identified.

    XVIII Century.
    Second phase.

    The home made industry of the Arraiolos' carpets became booming given the high number of pieces that were then made. The Eastern motifs disappeared almost entirely, giving way to floral motifs, vases with wings, dolls with high hairstyles (as they were used at that time) and ties to Louis XVI.

    XVIII Century.
    3rd phase.

    After the increment verified previously the decay of this artisan industry began.
    Eastern motifs and picturesque compositions based on regional flora and fauna and folk festivals have completely disappeared to give way to simple and repeated drawings on very poor, dead-colored backgrounds.

    XIX century

    In this century the carpet industry of Arraiolos disappeared almost completely, although a limited number of carpets were made by isolated amateur craftswomen, copied in general, of copies made in previous centuries. This near extinction was due to the emergence of the industrial era, because carpets with more modern and cheaper motifs probably begun to appear. However those that were manufactured were original and not less beautiful. They had few drawings, but nevertheless they were not less attractive.

    XX century

    During the first three quarters of this century the manufacture of Arraiolos' carpets reborn in a new impulse. Several artisans, mainly housewives, scattered throughout the country and executed copies of carpets of the XVII, XVIII and XIX centuries. For this reason was the idea that these were elaborated with faded colors since the old carpets were already faded due to antiquity. In the last quarter of this century carpets took on new, less orthodox expressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    You are saying they do not exist in Portugal? Well they do in Andalusia, and in Sicily (at least the western part).
    This also exists in Andalusia, even in London or Oslo. Make a thread asking if it is American or native European




    You are really naive or malicious if you think these things are produced in Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    This also exists in Andalusia, even in London or Oslo. Make a thread asking if it is American or native European




    You are really naive or malicious if you think these things are produced in Spain.
    The ridiculous thing is to show a hippies stand for tourists in the surroundings of the Alhambra and try to make everyone believe that it is a usual shop.

    I do not understand what obsession this guy has with relating to Spain with the Moors, he still does not want to assimilate that they are history. He persists in searching the internet, and finds nothing but bullshit

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