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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    My head hurts now
    Kelmendasi, where does my HG peak L664?

    Nordisch-Westisch or Westisch mit Nordische einschlag
    In other words: Atlantid type

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    R people were street shiters(Indians), they were one of the first immigrants into Europe to leech the social aid of that time and in about 5k years Arabs will be chatting in Apricity on how they brought civilisation to "peacful I farmers"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norb View Post
    Kelmendasi, where does my HG peak L664?
    L664 peaks in the Netherlands iirc but it is found in the rest of NW Europe at similar percentages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Yea but impersonating his avatar character he created, as in l people were black and stuff, winks winks damn what a comedian.
    We don't know Cheddar man's y-dna. It could be the same as La Brana's since they are likely to be close genetic relatives and both died around the same time. They also share the same mtDna which is ironically mostly found in Scandinavia. Maybe the dude got his skin pigmentation or eye color from his mother's side like La Brana?

    Anyway, the whole Cheddar man fiasco is typical of how a hobby has turned into something to be used politically, in this case by the left and trolls on forums like this one. "Hey, the original Brit was dark skinned. Let's embrace the migrants. They belong here, we don't."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    We don't know Cheddar man's y-dna. It could be the same as La Brana's since they are likely to be close genetic relatives and both died around the same time. They also share the same mtDna which is ironically mostly found in Scandinavia. Maybe the dude got his skin pigmentation or eye color from his mother's side like La Brana?

    Anyway, the whole Cheddar man fiasco is typical of how a hobby has turned into something to be used politically, in this case by the left and trolls on forums like this one. "Hey, the original Brit was dark skinned. Let's embrace the migrants. They belong here, we don't."



    Could have been C as well, but anything is possible. The more important thing is that Cheddar man eventhough he was a bit different than the regular mesolithic, he was still closer to modern northern Europeans, and clearly very different and removed from Africans (actually more than any European living today), which shows again that pigmentation can change very quickly and easily, simply because there s not much to change, it's a handful of genes to swap.




    My guess is he retained some elevated influences from the paleo Goyet or Vestonice cluser, something like that, opposed to the more typical Villabrunian cluster of the mesolithic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Could have been C as well,
    doesn't matter what hg he was, as he was WHG, which was of "I" as well, C does not determined the black appearance, but something else.

    that pigmentation can change very quickly and easily, simply because there s not much to change, it's a handful of genes to swap
    In your dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayman Vasconic View Post
    doesn't matter what hg he was, as he was WHG, which was of "I" as well, C does not determined the black appearance, but something else.
    Oh so now haplogroups don't matter. Very glad to hear from someone who tries to associate l with Blacks and even made a banner about it, but saying that sounds like you ve just got outsmarted by your own stupidity.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ayman Vasconic View Post
    In your dreams.
    Actually i don't believe you are Rethel, i mean your logic is as broken but the English falls short of Rethel's usual wrecked train phrasing. It's even more twisted than that. Damn we really have a 'interesting" sample of the Polish population on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Oh so now haplogroups don't matter. Very glad to hear from someone who tries to associate l with Blacks and even made a banner about it, but saying that sounds like you ve just got outsmarted by your own stupidity.
    I dont know what did you smoke, but surely you missread my post or did not read my post at all.

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    I have to ask....what is an I1 language exactly? A language that is only spoken by and learned by people with I1 haplotype DNA? We can extend that to cultural traits as well. Apparently the 2% of y-DNA within a man after many generations affects behavior and accepted cultural values, too. I suppose that means women couldn't possibly speak the I1 language or share in I1 or even R1 cultural traits, you know, with them not having the requisite y-DNA to give them a haplotype, right? *yawn* Chalk one more up to a ridiculous thread.
    Since 2017, I've been searching for my paternal side's original surname and origin. Preliminary evidence suggests the last name is either Lesnick or Lesnak from Slovakia.
    Lesnick/Lesnak yDNA: I1-L813 (U5a2 is the associated mtDNA from great-great grandmother from Slovakia)

    Maternal mtDNA: H3v (Netherlands origin)
    Paternal-Maternal mtDNA: T2b

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