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    Default U152: Masters of Europe?

    Honestly I've observed this about R1b-U152 prior to finding out I myself was U152, but can it be said that U152 has been the masters of Europe since perhaps the time of the Urnfield culture? Consider the following:

    --Hallstatt and La Tene Celts dominate Europe prior to the rise of Rome. They were pred. U152.

    --The Romans create perhaps the greatest and most influential European empire in history. Another U152 dominated group, or at least the original Italics/Latins.

    --After the fall of Rome the dominant power of the West became the Franks. Now while its likely many of the original Franks of Germania were U106, it was in the environs of Belgium that they had completed their early ethnogenesis and from which they conquered Neustrasia/Northern France, where Frankish and Gallo-Roman traditions would fuse to create the basis of medieval culture. This means those Franks of Belgium/Neustrasia must have carried much U152.

    --After a certain date the Habsburg dynasty occupies the highest feudal rank in Christendom (Holy Roman Emperor) and Charles V was at the head of one of the greatest powers since the Franks. The Planatagenet dynasty was arguably England's most successful. Both of these families were U152.

    --U152 heavy France was, since the Middle Ages, typically the strongest European power aside from Spain's "Siglo de Oro" and the rise of the British Empire, mostly after the Seven Years War and the defeat of Napoleon. Not sure how accurate but apparently they have the best military record in Europe:" According to the British historian Niall Ferguson, France has participated in 50 of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, and in 168 battles fought since 387 BC, they have won 109, drawn 10 and lost 49: this makes France the most successful military power in European history—in terms of number of fought and won.[5]"

    --U152 seems to correspond fairly strongly with the so-called "European core" as outlined by Charles Murray, at least more so than other Haplogroups:






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    A challenger appears
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    80 percent of all the European significant figures can be enclosed in an area that does not include Russia, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Spain, Portugal, the Balkans, Poland, Hungary, East and West Prussia, Ireland, Wales, most of Scotland, the lower quarter of Italy, and about a third of France.”

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    I'm R1b U152
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    you look more scythian sarmatian than mixed blondes(they mixed with I)

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    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
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    I'm R1b U152
    So what does this mean?
    Bell Beaker culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    80 percent of all the European significant figures can be enclosed in an area that does not include Russia, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Spain, Portugal, the Balkans, Poland, Hungary, East and West Prussia, Ireland, Wales, most of Scotland, the lower quarter of Italy, and about a third of France.”

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