China ONLY country to get Africans to leave voluntarily, so they go to Vietnam

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The growth was so rapid that in the 2000s the city’s Xiaobei area became known as “Little Africa”. In 2009, local media put the city’s African population as high as 100,000, including those who overstayed their visas, though the authorities said there were only 20,000.

But in the past few years, the city has witnessed the departure of large numbers of Africans, according to official local data and the African community.


The city’s African population slid to record low of 10,344 in February 2017, accounting for 13 per cent of the city’s 77,877 foreign residents with a valid visa, according to the municipal bureau of public security.

However, that figure was an underestimate, said Liang Yucheng, a professor of social sciences and humanities at Sun Yat-sen University, who said there were nearly 20,000 African traders in Guangzhou, though that number still marks a dramatic decrease from 2009 and 2010.

Don, the Kenyan trader, said rising costs were prompting many in the community to look elsewhere for potential.

“Our profit is very slim, compared with before,” Don said. “Most African trades from China are basic goods, like clothes, shoes, electrical appliances and low-end smartphones. The goods’ prices, logistics and living cost are all soaring too high in China.

“Every day among the African community in Guangzhou, more and more have people started talking about going home or exploring new markets like India, Vietnam and Cambodia.”


Baye Alioune Samb, economic counsellor at the Senegalese consulate in Guangzhou, agreed that the number of Africans in the city was quickly declining, and added that some were leaving for opportunities in other Asian nations.

“There are about 200 Senegal people in Guangzhou, and since this year, I have heard about five Senegal men who have turned to South Asian countries to explore new markets and chances, though it’s hard to find a better place to do trading business to replace China,” he said. “We start to hear Vietnam is emerging in manufacturing just like China in the 1980s.”

Besides the increased competition and falling profits, unstable living conditions in Guangzhou and visa issues were also a problem, Samb said.

“I was very surprised to hear of a Senegal businessman who has a big investment in Guangzhou has no stable and fixed living place,” he said. “Immigration policy is tough for most of them. A visa is very expensive to get, only one or three months, not nearly long enough to conduct business.

“They feel no future in China.”

There is also a social divide between the city’s African and local population.

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Everybody in China look the same; but there is a lot of ehtnies in chinese total population.Countries like China and Russia are multicultural and multiethnic by nature.

[Black Panther]

I'd rather go to the US or even Latin American to have a better life. What are these Africans thinking?

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I'd rather go to the US or even Latin American to have a better life. What are these Africans thinking?

CHINA & AFRICA trade..

[Black Panther]

CHINA & AFRICA trade..

Yes, but Chinese people are welcome in Africa, not the other way around (at least not to the same degree).

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Yes, but Chinese people are welcome in Africa, not the other way around (at least not to the same degree).

i dont live in Africa, but base on what i hear from African-african.. is that china is building roads, buildings in exchange for mining rights of African natural resources for the next 25-50 years..
i hope you pay attention to whats really going on..

[Black Panther]

i dont live in Africa, but base on what i hear from African-african.. is that china is building roads, buildings in exchange for mining rights of African natural resources for the next 25-50 years..
i hope you pay attention to whats really going on..

I know. I was referring to the fact that Blacks are mostly cucks. Chinese people can treat them like shit in China, but Africans welcome the Chinese with open arms.

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I know. I was referring to the fact that Blacks are mostly cucks. Chinese people can treat them like shit in China, but Africans welcome the Chinese with open arms.

are you member of other black forum website.. its time for us Filipinos help/reach out to blacks... well teach you guys to deal with them & tricks you guys dont see.

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Rising costs in China make African entrepreneurs look to Vietnam



‘People are starting to wonder if doing business in China is worth it.'
African nations have been turning to Vietnam as the business environment in China becomes increasingly more difficult.

African businesses started flooding to Guangzhou City after China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001, the South China Morning Post said on Monday.

Migration from Africa has risen as China "has stepped up its diplomatic links and investments with the continent," the newspaper explained.

In 2009, local media put the African population in Guangzhou at 100,000, including those who had overstayed their visas, it said.

Guangzhou draws merchants who come to buy goods such as jewelry and electronics in bulk, which they ship back to their homelands, according to AFP.

A part of the city has even been given the name "Little Africa."

But things have changed.

The city’s African population had dropped to 10,344 in February last year, the South China Morning Post cited the municipal bureau of public security as saying, though Liang Yucheng, a professor of social sciences and humanities at Sun Yat-sen University, told the newspaper that there were still nearly 20,000 African traders in Guangzhou.

Felly Mwamba, a leader of the Congolese community in Guangzhou, said one of the main reasons for this was rising costs, listing visa fees air tickets and other living expenses.

"Most African trade with China is basic goods, like clothes, shoes, electrical appliances and low-end smartphones. Prices, logistics and living costs are all soaring in China,” a Kenyan trader identified as Don said.

“Every day among the African community in Guangzhou, more and more have people started talking about going home or exploring new markets like India, Vietnam and Cambodia,” he said.

The other reason for the falling African population in Guangzhou, as pointed out by Xinhua news agency in January, is that "police have tightened enforcement on illegal immigration."

Long-time African residents told AFP that they have seen their compatriots lapse into "illegal" status after struggling with visa renewal requirements.

Nigerians must submit criminal record checks for all work and student visas, and no African countries are eligible for 72-hour or 144-hour transit visa exemptions, unlike visitors from many other nations.

"My friend had to go home to give fingerprints for a criminal record check. A return flight costs $2,000. By the time he got all his documents in order, his visa had expired," said Akubakarr Sajor Barrie, director of an import-export company.

"For a small business owner, this is really hard. People are starting to wonder if doing business in China is worth it and they're going to countries like Turkey and Vietnam instead," he was quoted by AFP as saying.

Official data from the labor ministry showed the number of foreign workers in Vietnam grew by more than 12,600 in 2004 to 83,500 in 2015, and 93 percent of them are legal.

Those foreigners come from 110 different markets, and most of them are from China, South Korea, and Taiwan.

Vietnam was named among the top 10 destinations for expats in a ranking released in March to aim at guiding the world’s rising number of modern nomads.

The country was placed ninth on the InterNations’ 2018 Expat Insider survey, climbing three spots from last year.

More than four in five expats, or 81 percent, described the Vietnamese people as welcoming, and 73 percent said it was easy to settle down in the country, the survey found.

Of the expats questioned, 56 percent said they had found it easy to make friends with locals, and 16 percent said they planned to stay forever.

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i dont live in Africa, but base on what i hear from African-african.. is that china is building roads, buildings in exchange for mining rights of African natural resources for the next 25-50 years..
i hope you pay attention to whats really going on..

China plays hardball globally.

Taiwan says China dangled $3 billion to grab ally Dominican Republic

TAIPEI/BEIJING (Reuters) - China offered the Dominican Republic a $3.1 billion package of investments and loans to get them to sever ties with Taiwan, a Taiwan official said on Tuesday, after the Caribbean nation switched allegiance to China in a diplomatic blow to the self-ruled island.

China said there were no economic pre-conditions.

Taiwan, claimed by China as its own, has formal relations now with only 19 countries, many of them poor nations in Central America and the Pacific like Belize and Nauru. China says Taiwan is simply a wayward province with no right to state-to-state ties.

China and Taiwan have tried to poach each other’s allies over the years, often dangling generous aid packages in front of developing nations, though Taipei struggles to compete with an increasingly powerful China.

Panama ended its long-standing relationship with Taiwan last year in a major diplomatic victory for China. The Vatican is possibly next on the list, as the Holy See and China edge closer to an accord on the appointment of bishops in China.

The news on the Dominican Republic switch, announced in both Beijing and Santo Domingo, drew strong and swift condemnation from Taiwan Foreign Minister Joseph Wu.

“President Danilo Medina of the Dominican Republic has ignored our long-term partnership, the wishes of the people of the Dominican Republic, and the years of development assistance provided by Taiwan, to accept false promises of investment and aid by China,” Wu told reporters.

“(Taiwan) strongly condemns China’s objectionable decision to use dollar diplomacy to convert Taiwan’s diplomatic allies. Beijing’s attempts at foreign policy have only served to drive a wedge between the people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait, erode mutual trust and further harm the feelings of the people of Taiwan.”

A Taiwan Foreign Ministry official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters that, according to initial calculations, China dangled at least a $3.1 billion package of investments, financial assistance and low-interest loans for the Dominican Republic, which shares an island with Haiti to the west.

That included $400 million for a new freeway, $1.6 billion for infrastructure projects and $300 million for a new natural gas power plant.

“It was a cost that Taiwan could not match,” the official said.

China’s Foreign Ministry said the move was a political one with no economic pre-conditions, but that now they have established ties, China will “proactively promote mutually beneficial cooperation in all areas”.

A person who answered the telephone at the Dominican Republic’s Beijing representative office said it did not know about the situation and declined further comment.

China has stepped up the pressure on Taiwan since the 2016 election of Tsai Ing-wen, from the pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party, as president. Beijing fears she will push for Taiwan’s formal independence, but Tsai says she wants to maintain the status quo.

The Dominican Republic had been a diplomatic ally of the Republic of China - Taiwan’s official name - for 77 years, including when the government ruled all of China before being forced to Taiwan in 1949 after losing a civil war to the Communists.

Taiwan’s presidential office said that despite the severe challenges, the government would not bow its head in pressure to Beijing, and vowed to do all it could to protect Taiwan’s interests.

The Taiwan official said the Dominican Republic move was not unexpected.

“We’ve always known things were not looking rosy here,” the official said.


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