As a whole, do Mainland Greeks pass better in Bosnia or Cyprus?

[Tooting Carmen]

Imo they pass a lot better in Cyprus than in Bosnia, because:

(1) Greeks are much more homogeneously dark-haired and dark-eyed than are Bosnians and other ex-Yugoslav groups, and don't have many of the genuinely Slavic types you find there.

(2) Nor are Cypriots as dark and MENA-looking as they are sometimes portrayed either. Despite some people calling them "Hellenized Levantines", in reality they are collectively quite easy to distinguish from Lebanese, Syrians and especially Palestinians and Jordanians.

[nightrider+]

Slightly closer to Bosnia.

Edit: It also depends on the region.

[Sikeliot]

Somewhere intermediate, but if I had to pick I would say Bosnia. I no longer think of Cypriots as Hellenized Levantines. Both genetically and phenotypically they are probably somewhere in between Sicilians/Cretans/south Italians and Levantines. But I already would argue mainland Greeks look distinct from those, so surely Cyprus is even further away.

1. Cyprus has very few "Pontid" Med types, with nearly all Mediterranean phenotypes in Cyprus being Gracile Mediterranean mixed with "eastern" elements. On the other hand, Pontid phenotypes do exist in Bosnia.

2. Cypriots have very little proper "Dinarid" unlike Bosnia. Dinarid, along with Alpine, are as important in Greece as is Mediterranean (Pontid).

3. Bosnians may have significantly more Central/East European types than Greece, but they can still be found in Greece to a lesser extent. Cyprus has none.

[The Blade]

Cyprus because of:
- strong Western Mediterranean element in both Cyprus and Greece
- stronger Dinaric element of Bosnia
- stronger Nordic, Baltic and Neo-Danubian elements of Bosnia

[Bornoz]

Deffinetly Cyprus.

[Dibran]

Cyprus. There may be some atypical Greeks that pass in Bosnia. Highly doubt they are closer to Bosnia.

[nightrider+]

Cyprus. There may be some atypical Greeks that pass in Bosnia. Highly doubt they are closer to Bosnia.

Haplogroups-wise there is more overlap with Bosnia and they are slightly closer autosomaly too, as well as more IBD blocks shared. This thread is pointless because people don't even know what mainland Greeks actually look like. 90% of Greeks posted here are Cypriots,Islanders and Pontics.

Are these people closer to Cyprus or Western Balkans?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Cyprus, by far, even though a few regions may pass slightly better in Bosnia.

Even though half islander (like 40% of Greek population) I live in mainland, and any opposite claim is just rediculous

Haplogroups-wise there is more overlap with Bosnia and they are slightly closer autosomaly too, as well as more IBD blocks shared. This thread is pointless because people don't even know what mainland Greeks actually look like. 90% of Greeks posted here are Cypriots,Islanders and Pontics.

Are these people closer to Cyprus or Western Balkans?

these people are not the majority of mainlanders, but the worst representation of far northern thessalians.

these:

are much more representative

[brennus dux gallorum]

Somewhere intermediate, but if I had to pick I would say Bosnia. I no longer think of Cypriots as Hellenized Levantines. Both genetically and phenotypically they are probably somewhere in between Sicilians/Cretans/south Italians and Levantines. But I already would argue mainland Greeks look distinct from those, so surely Cyprus is even further away.

1. Cyprus has very few "Pontid" Med types, with nearly all Mediterranean phenotypes in Cyprus being Gracile Mediterranean mixed with "eastern" elements. On the other hand, Pontid phenotypes do exist in Bosnia.

2. Cypriots have very little proper "Dinarid" unlike Bosnia. Dinarid, along with Alpine, are as important in Greece as is Mediterranean (Pontid).

3. Bosnians may have significantly more Central/East European types than Greece, but they can still be found in Greece to a lesser extent. Cyprus has none.

according to coon mediterranean type represents 70% of Greek population, so maths don't agree with the "equal importance" of alpine and dinaric

and if i am not mistaken, alpines are recorded in another anthropological study in cyprus. I will recall it and post it later

[Wrong]

according to coon mediterranean type represents 70% of Greek population, so maths don't agree with the "equal importance" of alpine and dinaric

Nope. Greek Meds are mostly Alpine or Dinaric-influenced, therefore Mediterranean can't be seen as a single factor of 70% regarding the archetypical Mediterranean taxonomy.

Meds in Greece are nowhere close to 70%.