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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Western World ? That's neat, Brits invented the concentration (death) camps, 50.000 boers were basically genocided and that's not countingthe Irish Famine and all atrocities of colonialism. The USA until the 60's had a segregational regime where torture and hanging black people was acceptable and that's not counting the systematic policies of genocide towards native americans, you want me to continue with the list if western "civilizational" methods ?

    All torture methods are rather barbaric, what we are discussing here is the scale, I seriously doubt that Pinochet regime tortured more people than Fidel's regime. And when we consider the legacy (saving the country from a communist tyrany and opening preparing the transition to democracy) there's absolutely no place for Pinochet among the list of the darkest dictators, on the contrary, he was a rather benevolent one. Too much lefist propaganda on this one, let's be objective instead.
    But there was also Operation Condor, where with the assistance of other South American dictatorships he assassinated dissidents abroad, such as Carlos Parts, Orlando Letelier and Bernardo Leighton. Most other dictators at least confine their crimes to their own countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    But there was also Operation Condor, where with the assistance of other South American dictatorships he assassinated dissidents abroad, such as Carlos Parts, Orlando Letelier and Bernardo Leighton. Most other dictators at least confine their crimes to their own countries.
    Really ? Like Leon Trotski wasn't killed in Mexico as well as many other Soviet dissidents. Read the book Mossad by Ostrovsky, he details very well some of their operations wich are practically all abroad. You really think that most secret services dont kill people abroad. UK, USA and NATO even passed that secret operation stage, they openly make wars and remove opponents whenever they want. Wake up and accept that Pinochet was a benevolent dictator.

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    Oh wow. I am really hurt over internet name calling, tough guy. How about you come here and say it to my face?

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    I'd also like to add that, during the Cold War, the Apartheid regime in South Africa was treated as if it were uniquely evil, what with all the sanctions, boycotts and international isolation. It was certainly a bigoted and repressive regime, but ultimately it was far less corrupt and brutal than many of the Black African dictatorships were, which nevertheless did not attract anything like the same censure and condemnation. The fact that most people haven't even heard of Macias Nguema, for example - whose regime was so murderous that a Swedish visitor to Equatorial Guinea called the country "the Auschwitz of Africa" - says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    But there was also Operation Condor, where with the assistance of other South American dictatorships he assassinated dissidents abroad, such as Carlos Parts, Orlando Letelier and Bernardo Leighton. Most other dictators at least confine their crimes to their own countries.
    The Argentinean, Brazilian, Uruguayan, Paraguayan and Bolivian dictatorships were also involved on it. And even "democratic" countries like Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru were partially involved on it. It wasn't only a thing of Pinochet dictatorship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    The Argentinean, Brazilian, Uruguayan, Paraguayan and Bolivian dictatorships were also involved on it. And even "democratic" countries like Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru were partially involved on it. It wasn't only a thing of Pinochet dictatorship.
    No, but they were the main leaders of it, and from what I know were the only ones to extend their assassinations and bombings outside of South America. And the degree to which Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador and Peru were involved remains uncertain. (At least in Colombia's case, a paramilitary group called the Alianza Americana Anticomunista was alleged to have been involved, but not really the Colombian State itself).

    N.B. Ecuador and Peru were themselves dictatorships until 1979 and 1980 respectively, but they weren't as radically right-wing as the ones further south were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    One of the unquestioned received opinions of our age is that the Nazis were a uniquely evil regime
    Because it's literally illegal to question that opinion.
    Really makes you think.

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    Colonialism, esp. what is now known as latin america was worse then all of them.

    Should not forget that most native populations were genocided, and others taken as slaves.

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    How about the Rothschild and their crooks that perpetuate Babylonian debt slavery? Pretty evil shadow dictators, if you ask me.

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