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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    It took 7 posts for a retard to show up. 6 posts in a row without an idiotic comment. Not bad going in TA.

    Rwandan genocide deniers are weird.
    Are you referring to yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoli View Post
    Are you referring to yourself?
    Your post is post 7, so. If you read 'posts' as 'replies' post 8 is Danielion's.

    Go be stupid someplace else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    The Bengal famine (much like the Irish potato famine before it, for that matter) was at least in part engineered by the British in order to gain access to the local crop (in this case, rice), regardless of the fact it meant many people could not feed themselves in the process. And the slave trade, along with the exterminations of Native Americans and Tasman islanders between them killed many millions. (And even those who weren't killed were still heavily subjugated and repressed).
    Even then, as I said, that is not contemporary. Why is that important? Because at the time slavery was truly international. The first modern nation to ban the slave trade? The UK. In 1807 (slavery itself had been banned in England and Wales in 1772, and would be banned in the Empire in 1833 and the BEIC territories in 1836). Next? Anything RELEVANT to the 20th-century medical experimentation, deliberate genocide, mass enslavement, mass rape and even cannibalism of the Japanese? Stop deflecting.
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    Even leaving aside the exploits of the British in the Americas, Africa and Asia, their exploits in Ireland are a tale unto themselves. The potato famine was to an extent engineered by the British, there was the brutal reaction to the Easter uprising, the Black and Tan death squads. In short, it is a grotesque myth to claim that the British Empire was entirely 'benign' and possibly even welcomed by its subjects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Your post is post 7, so. If you read 'posts' as 'replies' post 8 is Danielion's.

    Go be stupid someplace else.
    Intelligence can be measured now and we can find some way to compare ourselves. But If you think you have some valid argument about this particular subject, other than manifesting your intellect by throwing insults up and down, I'm up for the challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Even leaving aside the exploits of the British in the Americas, Africa and Asia, their exploits in Ireland are a tale unto themselves. The potato famine was to an extent engineered by the British, there was the brutal reaction to the Easter uprising, the Black and Tan death squads. In short, it is a grotesque myth to claim that the British Empire was entirely 'benign' and possibly even welcomed by its subjects.
    Sure, every famine was 'engineered by the British,' except no it wasn't, stop swallowing revisionist nonsense.

    No one said it was 'entirely benign.' I said it was a class apart from Japan c. 1895-1945 but particularly 1933-1945. You floundering and strawmanning is weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoli View Post
    Intelligence can be measured now and we can find some way to compare ourselves. But If you think you have some valid argument about this particular subject, other than manifesting your intellect by throwing insults up and down, I'm up for the challenge.
    I can't possibly argue against your wonderfully elegant 'but people don't kill their own people, therefore people don't kill their own people.' Impossible to counterargue. You have won the argument and I am jealous. Now please leave us alone so we lesser mortals can amuse ourselves.
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    And before I am attacked: no, I am not acting as an apologist for Nazism or Japanese Fascism. Rather, I am pointing out the basic (but apparently heretical) historical fact that they were far from being the only regimes or empires to have perpetrated large-scale crimes against humanity, and that all sorts of other tyrannies and crimes (including more than a few much closer to home) get ludicrously overlooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    I can't possibly argue against your wonderfully elegant 'but people don't kill their own people, therefore people don't kill their own people.' Impossible to counterargue. You have won the argument and I am jealous. Now please leave us alone so we lesser mortals can amuse ourselves.
    Let's give it a try. We're living in an age of the beginning of artificial intelligence now, and the workings of the mind are being understood and modeled. So it is possible to model even the minds of "dictators that kill their own people", and see whether such thing is possible or not, and if so, under what circumstances. Take the chance and show us your superior intelligence.

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    Haiti during and after their ''revolution.''.

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