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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba View Post
    call me crazy but I looked him up on Facebook and found out his mom was half German half Scottish. His dad comes from a very traditional and prideful Qashqai family. His results very clearly show some kind of Turkic descent as he has pretty large amount of East Asian for someone who is half Western Euro; I think if Azeri was a reference population it would say he is half Azeri. Interestingly my Aunt does not really show much East Asian even though she is also half Qashqai the only thing that stands out from a normal Southern Iranian is a high amount of North Euro/Steppe. But I think it just goes to show that the Qashqai is made of many ethnicities. My Aunt probably comes from the Iranic groups while he comes from the original Turkic groups.

    Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 22.56 Pct
    North_European 26.59 Pct
    South_Asian 1.16 Pct
    East_African 0.38 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 6.27 Pct
    East_Asian 1.68 Pct
    Caucasus 23.12 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    1 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
    2 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.89
    3 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
    4 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
    5 51.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
    6 53.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11

    1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 3.226308


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.023003


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.629055
    2 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.734436
    3 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.743141
    4 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.761278
    5 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.873659


    to further prove how crazy I am I did some calculation in order to remove the European (argyll+german averaged) from his results in order to get an idea of what his dad's results might look like. Obviously, this highly questionable accuracy the curiosity was killing me though.

    qashqai,23.56,0,1.54,1.22,8.07,6.48,2.32,.76,12.54 ,3.36,41.09,0

    .25x
    75.6 Zaza
    20.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    2.4 Chinese
    1.0 Georgian_Adjara
    0.4 Japanese
    0.4 Mozabite

    .5x
    60.2 Zaza
    18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
    18.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    1.2 Chinese
    1.0 Turkmen_Iraq

    1x
    61.0 Zaza
    32.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan

    2x
    91.0 Zaza
    9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
    Would love to see more Qashqai tested. Some clearly show East Eurasian input in their phenotype, while most look Iranian. I wonder how homogenous they are, considering they are made up of different ethnic tribes
    Father's results
    Mother's results
    [Viking Danish + Frank] + [Safavid + Ottoman]
    [37.6 German_Bavarian + 32.6 East_German + 29.8 North_German @ 2.76] + [33% Yoruk + 33% Circassian + 33% Iran_Mazandaran @ 2,463]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba View Post
    call me crazy but I looked him up on Facebook and found out his mom was half German half Scottish. His dad comes from a very traditional and prideful Qashqai family. His results very clearly show some kind of Turkic descent as he has pretty large amount of East Asian for someone who is half Western Euro; I think if Azeri was a reference population it would say he is half Azeri. Interestingly my Aunt does not really show much East Asian even though she is also half Qashqai the only thing that stands out from a normal Southern Iranian is a high amount of North Euro/Steppe. But I think it just goes to show that the Qashqai is made of many ethnicities. My Aunt probably comes from the Iranic groups while he comes from the original Turkic groups.

    Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 22.56 Pct
    North_European 26.59 Pct
    South_Asian 1.16 Pct
    East_African 0.38 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 6.27 Pct
    East_Asian 1.68 Pct
    Caucasus 23.12 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    1 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
    2 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.89
    3 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
    4 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
    5 51.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
    6 53.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11

    1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 3.226308


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.023003


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.629055
    2 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.734436
    3 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.743141
    4 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.761278
    5 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.873659


    to further prove how crazy I am I did some calculation in order to remove the European (argyll+german averaged) from his results in order to get an idea of what his dad's results might look like. Obviously, this highly questionable accuracy the curiosity was killing me though.

    qashqai,23.56,0,1.54,1.22,8.07,6.48,2.32,.76,12.54 ,3.36,41.09,0

    .25x
    75.6 Zaza
    20.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    2.4 Chinese
    1.0 Georgian_Adjara
    0.4 Japanese
    0.4 Mozabite

    .5x
    60.2 Zaza
    18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
    18.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    1.2 Chinese
    1.0 Turkmen_Iraq

    1x
    61.0 Zaza
    32.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan

    2x
    91.0 Zaza
    9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
    What does that person look like? Can they pass as white European?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    What does that person look like? Can they pass as white European?
    I would say he looks pretty European since he as blue-green eyes, fair skin, light golden brown hair, reddish beard. Though I personally could tell he's Iranian looking at him because I know what Iranians look like. To the average white person he probably just looks like a white guy with a bigger nose lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba View Post
    I would say he looks pretty European since he as blue-green eyes, fair skin, light golden brown hair, reddish beard. Though I personally could tell he's Iranian looking at him because I know what Iranians look like. To the average white person he probably just looks like a white guy with a bigger nose lol.
    That's probably a pretty Aryan look, haha. I guess you don't feel like sharing the link to his page.

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    Here is a list of people I suspect of being Qashqai heritage. They are Iranains who matched the half Qashqai kit I posted and they have last names that might suggest Qashqai origins not 100% sure they are pure. They also match pretty well with the estimated Qashqai numbers I made.
    SORRY I am too lazy to run all there kits through GEDmatch again but here is the numbers for Vahaduo Dodecad 12b (I put a star next to the ones I have highest confidence in) ( DM me and I can send you the kit numbers)

    *omar, 25.88,1.04,.92,.44,7.66,5.44,5.06,0,13.1,1.59,38.3 5,.51
    *fbagh,27.54,.78,0,0,6.7,8.19,3.05,.39,13.01,.91,3 9.32,.09
    *vaseg,26.95,1.15,0,0,7.65,7.11,5.52,.86,12.06,.54 ,38.16,0
    *eskan,25.93,.53,.92,.18,4.44,8.4,5.98,1.17,11.51, 2.63,38.26,.09
    *abaz,25.53,1.77,1.16,0,7.54,6.59,3.83,1.24,14.12, 1.78,36.44,0
    Lot,25.33,1.96,.5,1.4,6.96,9.68,4.5,.15,11.81,0,37 .61,.11
    jahan,27.97,.11,0,0,6.61,7.92,4.82,1.31,11.26,.28, 39.69,0
    mari,25.82,2.48,1.43,0,4.37,7.72,7.24,0,14.57,0,36 .36,0

    lower probability
    fekr,29.78,1.43,.47,1.28,5.21,8.62,4.54,.88,12.6,0 ,35.21,0
    sbagh,30.98,1.04,1.13,0,2.64,7.31,5.06,.13,11.7,.3 4,39.68,0


    highmidAVG,26.36875,1.2275,.72875,.2525,6.49125,7. 63125,5,.64,12.68,.96625,38.02375,.1

    Here the estimated attempts
    ghashghai,26.46,1,1.54,1.2,6.02,7.58,2.32,.76,12.5 4,2.11,38.24,0
    qashqai,25.56,1,1.54,1.22,7.07,6.48,3.32,.76,12.54 ,2.36,39.09,0

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    Updated V3 Version of my fathers result:



    (75% Iranian Turk from Zanjan + 25% Mazandaran)

    Dodecad k12b Vahaduo:

    Gedrosia: 22.51
    Siberian: 3.05
    NW_African: 0.79
    SE_Asian: 0.06
    Atlantic_Med: 6.69
    North_European: 10.56
    South_Asian: 4.43
    East_African: 0.54
    SW_Asian: 8.96
    East_Asian: 4.87
    Caucasus: 37.20
    SSA: 0.11



    Distance to: Father
    5.17684267 Azerbaijani
    5.42787251 Azerbaijani_Iran
    5.93638779 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    7.57484653 Iran_Khorasan
    8.32531081 Turk_Southeast
    8.50112346 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.59795906 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    8.60963414 Kurd_Kurmanji
    9.43041887 Zaza
    9.46463945 Turk_South
    9.85494292 Iran_Central_East
    9.94919595 Iranian_Fars
    10.00778197 Kurd_Sorani
    10.15785903 Turk_Central_East
    10.26547125 Iranian
    10.53277741 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    10.55194769 Turkmen_Iraq
    10.72265359 Turk_Anatolia
    11.18030858 Turkmen_Iran
    11.26223779 Turk_Central_West
    11.28121891 Kurd
    11.32719736 Lur_Iran
    11.61399587 Kurd_KAZ
    11.71265128 Turkmens
    11.78071730 Yoruk


    Target: Father
    Distance: 1.3399% / 1.33992501 | ADC: 0.25x
    26.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    21.6 Azerbaijani
    19.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    12.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
    11.2 Turkmens
    4.0 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
    3.6 Karachay
    1.2 Turkmen_Iran
    0.6 Kumyks


    Target: Father
    Distance: 2.4175% / 2.41754645 | ADC: 0.5x
    59.8 Azerbaijani
    16.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    10.2 Turkmens
    9.6 Turkmen_Iran
    2.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    1.6 Azerbaijani_Iran



    Some Admixturestudio stuff:

    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% Yoruk + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3,482
    2 50% Greek_Pontus + 50% Tajiks @ 3,706
    3 50% Turkmens + 50% Turk_East @ 3,819
    4 50% Iran_Mazandaran + 50% Turk_Southwest @ 3,867
    5 50% Turkmen_Iran + 50% Turk_East @ 3,945
    6 50% Iran_Mazandaran + 50% Turk_Northwest @ 3,997

    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 33% Iran_Central_East + 33% Yoruk @ 3,325

    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% Iran_Central_East + 25% Iran_Central_East + 25% Zaza + 25% Nogais @ 3,071
    2 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% AFG_Tajik @ 3,306
    3 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% Iran_Mazandaran + 25% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3,482
    Father's results
    Mother's results
    [Viking Danish + Frank] + [Safavid + Ottoman]
    [37.6 German_Bavarian + 32.6 East_German + 29.8 North_German @ 2.76] + [33% Yoruk + 33% Circassian + 33% Iran_Mazandaran @ 2,463]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba View Post
    I would say he looks pretty European since he as blue-green eyes, fair skin, light golden brown hair, reddish beard. Though I personally could tell he's Iranian looking at him because I know what Iranians look like. To the average white person he probably just looks like a white guy with a bigger nose lol.
    So, he don't look white : it's not because you have a light pigmentation that you can pass as European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dududud View Post
    So, he don't look white : it's not because you have a light pigmentation that you can pass as European.
    I think to most people a light pigmented middle eastern person would seem white. I’m light pigmented(light brown hair level 6 & hazel eyes& light olive skin) but have pretty noneuropean facial features(wide nose and big lips) and im perceived as white american by most people. I think all of you guys would be able to distinguish light middle east vs euro but you’re probably a bit more interested in race than the average joe lol.

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