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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    The typical American looks English or Irish, Germans only make up like 20% of the white population, they aren't a common as people believe; they are usually watered down too.
    You're right, even that percentage is still more in some states.
    But what I mean is that the typical white American mostly does not look purely British (of course there will be many of them) but most of them look Pan-European you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    You're right, even that percentage is still more in some states.
    But what I mean is that the typical white American mostly does not look purely British (of course there will be many of them) but most of them look Pan-European you know.
    Depends really, there are a lot of pretty pure places in the country, once you get into more urban areas the lines do become somewhat blurred. A lot of Brits are Pan Euro looking to begin with, the Brits that are super easy to tell apart are usually English people with bigger noses, there are so many Borrebys, Brunns and Sub-Nordids even the purer looking people look pan Euro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    From time to time I see white Americans who are tanned, for example, of George Clooney's pigmentation (and he has no ancestry from southern Europe), therefore, it is not very rare to see white americans and tanned , I think 60 % of white Americans do not have blue eyes and the predominant skin in white Americans is III, although numbers I and II are also not uncommon.

    Just out of curiosity are the American Irish still mostly Catholic?
    A lot of it is environment though only the palest people don't tan well, most Americans get farmers tans unless they wear tanktops or lowcut shirts. Most Irish people outside the East Coast are protestants, mostly Baptist or Pentecostal etc. A lot of Irish on the East Coast are Evangelists now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    I guess it means that the typical white American looks more German-French-Dutch-Italian- or a mix between them than English or Irish pure.
    These would be examples of typical white Americans. Do they look English or Italian/Spaniards?



    Redford and Stewart are fully Anglo-Celtic, my point was that the average White American tends to have some continental ancestry that distinguishes them in looks, to me anyway. It's not that relevant to thread question as they still look far from Italians or Spaniards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gota_type_ View Post
    This would be a more representative picture of how we Spaniards look like. I know they are children (because one of them is a top goal-keeper now) but it is an example of the different skin tones and looks: 3-4 darkies, 5-6 looking average for European standards, and 2-3 blondes:

    Is that De Gea by chance?

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    Nobody is trying to sell southern Europeans as northern Europeans. Why the hell you invent this argument? We are just trying to break stereotypes and bad information because Spain is the country in the world that is sold in a extreme different way (in many aspects) than what we really are. Posting non-mediterranean looking Spaniards is to show our variability. Posting just atlanto-meds or meds would be retarded since that is the main group of people and anyone can see it.

    Also the idea is to show that we don´t really have a real average on looks. We have from the purest nordic types to the extreme mediterraneans (non-whites). We have from germanic-russian-british looking to gypsy looking (Raul for example). There are like 40% of meds (in different skin tones) to 30-40% of central European looking types (in fact, our genoma indicates that most of our genetics came in the same root than central-Europeans: all indo-europeans from iberians to celtic or romans, from megalithic peoples to suevians, all of them are the same than in central-Europe). Trying to debunk the idea that we are just a "med" country is showing reality of what we are, nothing else.

    Those that use dark-contrast pictures or bad quality ones are also selling fake ideas. I can take a finnish person and he would look ethnic if I use bad quality pictures (as you can see in your pictures, Gerard Pique has blue eyes and in your pictures he looks like having black eyes, so imagine how dark all the features look in all your examples).

    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Whiteness is based upon a genetic reality. That which is considered white in this continent is a manifestation of phenotype. Phenotype is a manifestation of genetics. This idea that if you don't adhere to a particular phenotype (predominately based on Northern European phenotype) no matter how European you maybe, then you're not "white". That's why Germanics and Slavs generally all fit into whiteness in America. Because they usually have similar characteristics in their phenotype. A Scandinavian person is a lot closer to me than a Spaniard.

    When the first Americans used it they weren't speaking of all Europeans, they were speaking specifically of Anglos. Look at Benjamin Franklin's letters. He directly equates "white" with "Anglo" and lumps Irish, Italians, Spaniards, and non-Anglo Germanics under "swarthy" and says they are non-white. Then eventually Germanics were considered white. Then Irish. Then Southern Europeans. Although fuck, some people still debate if your people are white, a lot of people in America don't see your people as white, which is indicative of the historical lag.

    Remember the American understanding of whiteness by society at large, is the concept of naming a combination of genes that express/manifest themselves in people through phenotype or traits. Meaning most Southern Europeans aren't white, but they are just European. Whiteness or being white is a concept in American society with certain parameters that many of their former heirs shared.



    Just because few Spaniards have light hair or blue eyes does not mean they are genetically/physically similar to Northern Europeans with the same features. And you are free to post blonde Spaniards all day, it just won't change anyone's perception of whiteness. Seems strange that your people would embed the principle of divinity up on human forms with a phenotype other than their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Dude, no one cares. Your historical insignificance and non-white ways are directly responsible for the irreparable hovel that all of Latin America is and will always be. And arabs and other brown ethnicities are not socially seen as white in America.

    There are white people in every med country, even Turkey, but they're a minority compared to Northern Europe. The majority of whites won't agree that you are white. Imagine an Appalachian mountain man hearing your thick accent and thinking you are a white man lel.
    Northern Europe whites according to this guy.



    There are lots of northern Europeans with ASIAN blood. You mistake being lighter with being white. This Spaniard is whiter than lots of Scandinavians, if we follow the idea of being pure western European with being white:



    Learn to differenciate. And yes, it was us Spaniards the ones that invented:
    -The white term.
    -The racial classifications.
    -Blood purity (Limpieza de sangre).
    -Blue blood (sangre azul).

    The anglos just copied it.

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    15 % or 20 %

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Dude, they are occupation colonies where we administered the local population to extract resources and finances. The pattern is for the colonisers to make an entry as allies and then to become disproportionately influential because the elite is dependent upon them to maintain control while they themselves are isolated from the fallout if the colony collapses. This is the model with the British Empire.

    Just an aside note. When I hear the idea of a "British EMPIRE" I can´t do a thing but laught. The brits (and many others that think that they had an empire like the dutch or the mongols, and others) never had a proper empire. They were just COMMERCIAL SUPERPOWERS but not real empires. The Brits only went there to economically benefit from trades and the only (minimal) constructions that they left in their ex-colonies were just for the use of the brits and to facilitate the trades. The same with the dutch and others.

    A real Empire is like the Roman one or the Spanish one. In Spanish Empire we colonized, built cities, built schools, universities, hospitales, churches, cathedrals, we gave laws, rights (all the people under the Spanish Empire were Spaniards and had the same rights than in mainland Spain). They were not colonies but provinces and virreinatos. We left like 30 Unesco World Heritage sites in our Empire, while the british left nothing.

    And when I read that the british commercial superpower (what they call Empire) was the largest ever it is funny. For example, if they had a commercial point in Canada, then they paint all of Canada (which is massive and bigger than all of Europe) is taken as "british empire" summing all the km2 to their "empire". The same for australia. What did they have in Australia? 1-2cities?? Then, they sell the idea as if they discovered, colonized and built things in all of Australia and take all their km2 to their "empire". I wonder in which cities of India they were? 4-5? Then they take all of India as part of their "empire". The same with the "Hunnic" empire. What did they huns leave in their "empire"? Nothing. They were just pillaging, destroying, killing, and raping. Nothing else. And they never owned the places they were routing but the maps are painted as if there were huns in all of Eastern Europe, in every single city.

    Just so people realize the amount of lies that comes with people selling fake ideas about what they were or are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Redford and Stewart are fully Anglo-Celtic, my point was that the average White American tends to have some continental ancestry that distinguishes them in looks, to me anyway. It's not that relevant to thread question as they still look far from Italians or Spaniards.
    I guess you are talking about the "stereotype" looking Spaniards. We have many germanic/nordic types here that can even look Scandinavian. Just see the threads I started to see a few (there are hundreds of thousands like them here).


    Quote Originally Posted by Davystayn View Post
    Is that De Gea by chance?
    Yes.

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