What percentage of Spaniards and Italians people pass as typical white Americans?

[Tooting Carmen]

Lots of those pan-Euro types could also pass in Italy and Spain.

The problem of many people on here, is that they have this idea, that NW Europeans look nearly all like this:





And nearly all Italians and Spaniards look like this:





MILLIONS of NW Euros and MILLIONS of Spaniards and Italians don't look like those extremes, but have soft/fleshy features and a fair intermediate very average European pigmentation (not too med nor too pale) and could pass in many European countries, like those celebrities I mentioned.

Atlantids and Alpines are the most pan-European types. (Dinarids less so). Extreme Med types don't pass in Northern/Central Europe, and nor do Baltids and Uralic/Lappid types pass in Southern Europe. However, the point is that both extremes are a minority, and there I agree with you.

[Gaska]

The average NW Euro White American looks far from the average Spaniard or Italian, that's not a controversial statement. The average Spaniard/Italian is some kind of Med phenotype.

Not many NW Europeans look pan-Euro. There is a decent overlap with Central Europeans, and much smaller overlaps with Southern and Eastern Europeans.

What average? What overlaps? If you think that is because you have traveled very little in Europe

Stop being an autistic pedant and use common sense in these discussions-I will repeat myself since your small dogmatic brain could not understand it from the first time

There is more proportion of blonde people with blue eyes in Spain and Italy than in the USA. Do you get it? Have you read the links I have sent?
Have you understood that these phenotypic traits are not exclusive to any race or subrace?

[Gaska]

Atlantids and Alpines are the most pan-European types. (Dinarids less so). Extreme Med types don't pass in Northern/Central Europe, and nor do Baltids and Uralic/Lappid types pass in Southern Europe. However, the point is that both extremes are a minority, and there I agree with you.

It seems that you are a racial expert. And you're using totally obsolete racial types based almost exclusively on phenotypes that are shared by all those supposed races you mention. The only difference between countries is the percentage of those physical traits. Nothing more.
Mr Bean could be confused with a Moor in some regions of Spain

[Cristiano viejo]

There are many trolls darkwashing Southern Europeans on TA

Yourself, without going further.

Dude, no one cares. Your historical insignificance and non-white ways are directly responsible for the irreparable hovel that all of Latin America is and will always be. And arabs and other brown ethnicities are not socially seen as white in America.
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Canada and USA go for the same way than all Latin America. Non whites run your countries. Wait to have the same age than these Latino countries, we will see how mongrel you will be. In fact you already are. Trudeau is doing very good work

[Gota_type_]

Atlantids and Alpines are the most pan-European types. (Dinarids less so). Extreme Med types don't pass in Northern/Central Europe, and nor do Baltids and Uralic/Lappid types pass in Southern Europe. However, the point is that both extremes are a minority, and there I agree with you.

Mongoloid-germanic (blond-blue eyed) looking Spaniard. His eyes, nose, etc, looks uralid of some sort. He is from Toledo and has a nobility surname, probably inherited these traits from the visigoths (who knows):
Gonzalo Pérez de Vargas:

[Gota_type_]

The average NW Euro White American looks far from the average Spaniard or Italian, that's not a controversial statement. The average Spaniard/Italian is some kind of Med phenotype.

Not many NW Europeans look pan-Euro. There is a decent overlap with Central Europeans, and much smaller overlaps with Southern and Eastern Europeans.

When you realize that these people are full-blooded Spaniards with traditional Spanish surnames you will get the point that only if they have funny dresses or suits or if they are like 6 blondes and redheads in the same group, or if all of them are 1.90-1.95 or if they are carrying 5 Canon Eos in a touristic city, it will be only when we will realize that they are not from Spain.

Just see that these Spaniards are more extreme looking than the examples you posted (Mel Gibson and so on) and no one here in Spain will never think that they are foreigners or yankies:



On the left:







So, if these Spaniards will not be considered foreigners by us Spaniards, how can you say that someone like Jennifer Lawrence, Maria Elizabeth Winstead, Mel Gibson or others will be seen just as tourists and "aliens" to Spain? We have these types here and they are also natives.

[Creoda]

Lots of those pan-Euro types could also pass in Italy and Spain.

No shit, that's what being pan-European looking means, passing across Europe. However, I wrote that few NW Europeans are actually pan-European looking, because Europeans are too different from North to South and East to West. Italians and Spaniards have even fewer pan-European looking people than NW Europeans, as they're far more genetically isolated from most of the continent.

[Cristiano viejo]

No shit, that's what being pan-European looking means, passing across Europe. However, I wrote that few NW Europeans are actually pan-European looking, because Europeans are too different from North to South and East to West. Italians and Spaniards have even fewer pan-European looking people than NW Europeans, as they're far more genetically isolated from most of the continent.

Humm, I would say Russians, Finnish etc are more isolated than Spaniards...



why did not you name them?have you an agenda perhaps?

[Gaska]

No shit, that's what being pan-European looking means, passing across Europe. However, I wrote that few NW Europeans are actually pan-European looking, because Europeans are too different from North to South and East to West. Italians and Spaniards have even fewer pan-European looking people than NW Europeans, as they're far more genetically isolated from most of the continent.

Ha Ha Ha Ha

[Creoda]

When you realize that these people are full-blooded Spaniards with traditional Spanish surnames you will get the point that only if they have funny dresses or suits or if they are like 6 blondes and redheads in the same group, or if all of them are 1.90-1.95 or if they are carrying 5 Canon Eos in a touristic city, it will be only when we will realize that they are not from Spain.

Just see that these Spaniards are more extreme looking than the examples you posted (Mel Gibson and so on) and no one here in Spain will never think that they are foreigners or yankies:

So, if these Spaniards will not be considered foreigners by us Spaniards, how can you say that someone like Jennifer Lawrence, Maria Elizabeth Winstead, Mel Gibson or others will be seen just as tourists and "aliens" to Spain? We have these types here and they are also natives.

I haven't posted pictures of any celebrities as an argument or even mentioned the people you've listed; they're irrelevant.