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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    We know perfectly they speak Spanish, Guinea Ecuatorial even was an Spanish province some years before his independence at the end of 60s.Maybe toungest ones don´t know about them, but youngest ususally are quite uncultivated.

    They usually speak a very clear Spanish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    I didn't expect the butthurt moroccan guy to get so pissed about my comment about Sahara Occidental. Man really is afraid of blackness or butthurt for other reasons.

    Western Sahara spoke Spanish, so that'd make it the second blackest "hispanic" country after Equatorial Guinea since North Africans have significant SSA origin.
    western sahara don't exist it's all controlled by Morocco the polisario front hides in Algeria so no one speak spanish there and it's not an official language. Also wtf are you talking about moroccans aren't black and their ssa is very low between 5-15% don't try to blackwash us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Deberías saber que no son casos comparables, y ese mapa no es prueba de nada, más aún que se ve claramente Maroc en pequeñito al norte del todo.

    Fué una invasión, y si no llega a ser por la debilidad política interna de España justo en ese momento, y el apoyo de Francia y EEUU, ahora mismo habría un estado independiente en el Sáhara Occidental.

    Una muy cobarde invasión, por cierto, al menos en la reconquista luchaban por conseguir sus objetivos, vosotros por detrás y con engaños. Al menos reconocedlo de una vez.
    Wtf are you talking about ?? which invasion ? I show you a map of morocco before colonial powers came there was no western sahara before french and spanish divided the region ...I will also say that christian iberians invaded al andalus I support the independance of Catalonia and Andalucia.

    Show me any historical sources who mention western sahara as a free nation. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    It is merely an idiomatic way we say it in English.
    I am not english native speaker, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    Wtf are you talking about ?? which invasion ? I show you a map of morocco before colonial powers came there was no western sahara before french and spanish divided the region ...I will also say that christian iberians invaded al andalus I support the independance of Catalonia and Andalucia.

    Show me any historical sources who mention western sahara as a free nation. Good luck.
    Oh please...

    This is not a map of Morocco.

    I didn´t say never Sahara has been never a nation.

    How could we call the green march?

    Did Sahaeawis feel Moroccans when they were anenexed?

    Did Morocco ask the opinion to Saharawis when annexed Western Sahara?

    Why Morocco send thousands of colons if Western Sahara was so Moroccan?

    Now is a part of Morocco, but you get it in a very dirty way.

    Sharawis never were part of any Moroccan nation, if ever existed Moroccan nation before 1956.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    Wtf are you talking about ?? which invasion ? I show you a map of morocco before colonial powers came there was no western sahara before french and spanish divided the region ...I will also say that christian iberians invaded al andalus I support the independance of Catalonia and Andalucia.

    Show me any historical sources who mention western sahara as a free nation. Good luck.
    And one thing more, i respect a lot of episodes of Moroccan history, but not what you did in 1975 with Saharawis.

    All countries have shameful episodes in their history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Oh please...

    This is not a map of Morocco.

    I didn´t say never Sahara has been never a nation.

    How could we call the green march?

    Did Sahaeawis feel Moroccans when they were anenexed?

    Did Morocco ask the opinion to Saharawis when annexed Western Sahara?

    Why Morocco send thousands of colons if Western Sahara was so Moroccan?

    Now is a part of Morocco, but you get it in a very dirty way.

    Sharawis never were part of any Moroccan nation, if ever existed Moroccan nation before 1956.
    He didn't send colons there It was a peaceful demonstration to put pression on the spanish government and yes morocco asked multiple times : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Western_Sahara

    Before spaniards came it was moroccan so why it should be independant now ?? Using your logic we demand the independance of andalucia, catalonia and the basque region too.


    learn history before talking :



    cherifian empire before the protectorate :



    Protectorate means that the french and spanish governments recognized the moroccan monarchy so no Morocco existed before 1956 because since 1631 it's the same dynasty that reign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    And one thing more, i respect a lot of episodes of Moroccan history, but not what you did in 1975 with Saharawis.

    All countries have shameful episodes in their history.
    You're simply ignorant about this part of history ...There were no attacks or invasions even the green march wasn't violent and all the participants went back home after it. You really should read before spreading such nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    You're simply ignorant about this part of history ...There were no attacks or invasions even the green march wasn't violent and all the participants went back home after it. You really should read before spreading such nonsense
    No tienes ni idea de nada, paso de hablar contigo de nada, lo siento.

    About legitimty of Morocco over Western Sahara:

    ICJ: "neither the internal nor the international acts relied upon by Morocco indicate the existence at the relevant period of either the existence or the international recognition of legal ties of territorial sovereignty between Western Sahara and the Moroccan State. Even taking account of the specific structure of that State, they do not show that Morocco displayed any effective and exclusive State activity in Western Sahara."

    Actualmente la situación sigue sin resolverse. La Misión de Naciones Unidas para el referendo en el Sahara Occidental sigue activa, pero Marruecos la rechaza, argumentando que no le corresponde supervisar la situación de los derechos humanos en el Sahara.15​ Para el derecho internacional, España sigue siendo la potencia administradora del Sahara Occidental —el Acuerdo Tripartito de Madrid no es válido, pues según la ONU «no transfirió la soberanía sobre el Territorio ni confirió a ninguno de los signatarios la condición de Potencia administradora, condición que España, por sí sola, no podía haber transferido unilateralmente»—16​17​ y Marruecos lo ocupa.18​

    About moroccans colons :

    The independence referendum was originally scheduled for 1992, but conflicts over voter eligibility prevented it from being held. Both sides blamed each other for stalling the process. In 1997, the Houston Agreement was supposed to restart the process, but again failed. In 2003, the Baker Plan was launched to replace the Settlement Plan, but while accepted by the Polisario and unanimously endorsed by the United Nations Security Council, it was rejected by Morocco. Morocco insisted that all inhabitants of the territory should be eligible to vote in the referendum. Following the 1975 Green March, the Moroccan state has sponsored settlement schemes enticing thousands of Moroccans to move into the Moroccan-occupied part of Western Sahara (80% of the territory). By 2015, it was estimated that Moroccan settlers made up at least two thirds of the 500,000 inhabitants.[2]

    Presently, there is no plan for holding the referendum, and the viability of the cease-fire is coming into question.

    About peaceful march:

    The demonstration of some 350,000 Moroccans advanced several kilometres into the Western Sahara territory, escorted by nearly 20,000 Moroccan troops.Why 20.000 troops in a pacific demonstration???

    another clue that it was not very paceful and friendly is the existence of refugees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahraw...lation_numbers

    About Spanish language in Western Sahara:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saharan_Spanish

    Spanish still influences Sahrawi society today and is the preferred second language for acquisition and government.[1] Although Arabic and Spanish are both official languages of Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, Arabic is the sole official language in their constitution and the republic only uses Spanish for radio and TV broadcasts[2] and state journalism.[3]

    Spanish vocabulary has entered Hassaniya, particularly in fields related to agriculture, automobiles, diet, and sanitation.[4] These loanwords are reinforced due to Sahrawis studying abroad in Hispanic lands and returning to either Western Sahara or the Sahrawi refugee camps.[4]

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