Number of Slavic toponyms in Greece by region

[Scholarios]

I have come to think Vasner’s work is not really correct. The issue of Slavic toponyms in Greece and Albania is a complex one. See Malingoudis’ article on why.

http://www.kroraina.com/slav/malingoudis_1983.htm

[Tauromachos]

My paternal grandmother's village in Messinia (settled after Greek revolution) was called Paneyeka. Does that sound like a Slav toponym?

Comes probably from Panagia"Virgin Mary" in Greek

[Bosniensis]

For example most Serbian results (as far as Native component is concerned) match with Greece Thessaly (NO OTHER PARTS) but Greece Thessaly, I've checked your map in OP and strongest Slavic toponyms are in Thessaly 122, 48 etc..

That can't be coincidence or can it?

[Tauromachos]

For example most Serbian results (as far as Native component is concerned) match with Greece Thessaly (NO OTHER PARTS) but Greece Thessaly, I've checked your map in OP and strongest Slavic toponyms are in Thessaly 122, 48 etc..

That can't be coincidence or can it?

What you mean by matching?

You mean Serbians can get Thessalian Greek in their top 5 or 10 but don't get other Greek things.?

I haven't seen any Greeks clustering with Serbs however

Also are the Serbians you are talking about people with Vlach origins?

This might explain it because Thessaly has alot of Vlachs

But about the presence of Slavic people or Slavic speakers in Thessaly i haven't heard that much

[Bosniensis]

What you mean by matching?

You mean Serbians can get Thessalian Greek in their top 5 or 10 but don't get other Greek things.?

I haven't seen any Greeks clustering with Serbs however

Also are the Serbians you are talking about people with Vlach origins?

This might explain it because Thessaly has alot of Vlachs

But about the presence of Slavic people or Slavic speakers in Thessaly i haven't heard that much

Well Serbian matches have Greece in top 10 in those popular calculators, well not any Greece but Thessaly.

I have Thessaly on 10. Greek_Thessaly @ 18.063917 on K13 and 12,13 on K15 but I've seen even closer .

But in dual combinations it's always: South Poland 50% + Greek Thessaly 50% 1.80 and similar.

Thessaly is exposed way more than some other Greek territories like Epirus for example.

That could be related to Vlachs who knows.

[Tauromachos]

Well Serbian matches have Greece in top 10 in those popular calculators, well not any Greece but Thessaly.

I have Thessaly on 10. Greek_Thessaly @ 18.063917 on K13 and 12,13 on K15 but I've seen even closer .

But in dual combinations it's always: South Poland 50% + Greek Thessaly 50% 1.80 and similar.

Thessaly is exposed way more than some other Greek territories like Epirus for example.

That could be related to Vlachs who knows.

Ok fair enough but this then would rather mean that Serbians have some Greek ancestry whatever Greek here possibly means
Hellenic,Vlach,Paleobalkan... than Thessalians having alot of Slavic.

Because in general Mainland Greek results if they get Balkan Slavic in their top 5 or top 10 its always Bulgarian

Greeks can get Serbian but its almost everytime beyond their top 10.


Yes and i think any Slavic ancestry in Thessalians would have been brought indirectly via Vlach genetics not by Slavs themselves.

The Vlach presence in Thessaly is well known about Slavic presence i never heard something.

[Dick]

Well Serbian matches have Greece in top 10 in those popular calculators, well not any Greece but Thessaly.

I have Thessaly on 10. Greek_Thessaly @ 18.063917 on K13 and 12,13 on K15 but I've seen even closer .

But in dual combinations it's always: South Poland 50% + Greek Thessaly 50% 1.80 and similar.

Thessaly is exposed way more than some other Greek territories like Epirus for example.

That could be related to Vlachs who knows.

Eutest is better and more accurate in single and mixed pops.

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.27
2 HU 7.07
3 RO 8.43
4 AT 9.98
5 UA 14.64
6 PL 14.82
7 Ukrainian-Russian 16.19
8 West_Russian 17.04
9 West_&_Central_German 17.35
10 Belorussian 18.65
11 North_Italian 18.7
12 NL 18.98
13 FR 19.87
14 North_Swedish 19.97
15 South_&_Central_Swedish 20.41
16 South_Finnish 20.64
17 East_Russian 21.1
18 Northwest_Russian 21.19
19 EE 21.19
20 English 21.19

78.8% Serbian + 21.2% PL @ 4.27

[Voskos]

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cool results brate moj. may the holy kolovrat look after you.

[Bosniensis]

Eutest is better and more accurate in single and mixed pops.

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.27
2 HU 7.07
3 RO 8.43
4 AT 9.98
5 UA 14.64
6 PL 14.82
7 Ukrainian-Russian 16.19
8 West_Russian 17.04
9 West_&_Central_German 17.35
10 Belorussian 18.65
11 North_Italian 18.7
12 NL 18.98
13 FR 19.87
14 North_Swedish 19.97
15 South_&_Central_Swedish 20.41
16 South_Finnish 20.64
17 East_Russian 21.1
18 Northwest_Russian 21.19
19 EE 21.19
20 English 21.19

78.8% Serbian + 21.2% PL @ 4.27

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 5.404768
2 HU @ 5.817806
3 RO @ 6.445091
4 AT @ 10.002944
5 UA @ 17.576876
6 PL @ 17.782257
7 North_Italian @ 18.322634
8 West_&_Central_German @ 19.170273
9 Ukrainian-Russian @ 19.197596
10 West_Russian @ 19.841959
11 FR @ 20.396328
12 NL @ 20.919979
13 PT @ 22.437109
14 Belorussian @ 22.553698
15 Tuscan @ 22.772711
16 North_Swedish @ 23.277973
17 Cornish @ 23.506401
18 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 23.553143
19 English @ 23.556898
20 East_Russian @ 24.021873

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% HU +50% RO @ 2.721420

[Ujku]

In the late 1800s there were changed more than 9.000 toponyms mainly from Albanian then vlach and then slavic. This number kept going on as Greece was getting more land.

Did they change them to ancient Greek toponyms ? A few of them yes but the majority of them settlements and areas didn't exist in the early 1000s leave alone BC era.