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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios View Post
    Serb settlements were not any less permanent that Venetian ones. Their cultural influence is similar as well, at least in the North.
    In the north yes, but no way they affected more than venetians the south (even though we are talking about different eras, and other than eastern sterea they didn't contact the south )

    But even in the north, mind that they stayed for some decades

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    In the north yes, but no way they affected more than venetians the south (even though we are talking about different eras, and other than eastern sterea they didn't contact the south )

    But even in the north, mind that they stayed for some decades
    There isn’t a church in the northwest that isn’t essentially Serbian ( goes for the FYROM stuff as well). At least not before 1922. Even in the south there are like 3 churches total that are pre-Slav. I gotta find my list of late Byzantine Thessalian nobles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios View Post
    There isn’t a church in the northwest that isn’t essentially Serbian ( goes for the FYROM stuff as well). At least not before 1922. Even in the south there are like 3 churches total that are pre-Slav. I gotta find my list of late Byzantine Thessalian nobles...
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    Around of my hometown all the villages had Slavic names!!!!
    No one in Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedon View Post
    Around of my hometown all the villages had Slavic names!!!!
    No one in Greek.

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    Yes, as north as edessa and florina that was the norm, it changed, however, in South Macedonia

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    Yes, as north as edessa and florina that was the norm, it changed, however, in South Macedonia
    Yes in Veroia, Katerini and Chalkidiki.
    I can give you some examples:
    Edessa-Vodena, Agras-Vladovo, Naoussa-Nusa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios View Post
    There isn’t a church in the northwest that isn’t essentially Serbian ( goes for the FYROM stuff as well). At least not before 1922. Even in the south there are like 3 churches total that are pre-Slav. I gotta find my list of late Byzantine Thessalian nobles...
    E-V13 peaks in Thessaly in southeastern region where Vlachs first appeared. In my opinion Vlachs of Greece were "conservative" genetically with cheif halpogroups as J2 and E-V13. Slavic ancestry comes mostly from Slavs themselves seeing the toponyms.

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    Peterski slavicizes whole Europe, now he annoys the noble Greeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sant Feliu de Guíxols View Post
    What is irritating about his excellent work is that he, like all Balkan historians, fails completely to address the ethnic cleansing the Byzantines undertook of the slavs in the peloponnese. The greater number of the slavs in the peloponnese were not assimilated - they were forcibly removed and dumped mostly in central anatolia by the Byzantine army. Seeing how nearly every greek academic is a leftist, one can undersrand why they wish to omit this key expulsion - however I believe it is key to understanding the demise of the slavs in the peloponnese as well as why you get a fair few lighter featured turks in central anatolia.
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    What ethnic cleansing? I am pretty sure some Slavs were expelled but it would better for Wikipedia to elaborate on "most".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Peterski slavicizes whole Europe, now he annoys the noble Greeks
    16th century AD Germany has not much to do with modern Germany (as SL & you wrote), but 16th century BC Greece = modern Greece?

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