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    K36 of the Mycenaeans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    I was expecting mainland/island Greek populations to come up first, like Greek_Central, Greek_Thessaly, etc

    It is bizarre because it isn't like this a population lost to history. Greeks have been in the peninsula for thousands of years. Of course they have changed but I thought the continuity would be stronger, especially since foreign populations are coming up first
    Yeah I've also noticed that North African populations (not Jewish ones) are showing up before some Greek populations.

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    Kit Number: Z445292
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    I was expecting mainland/island Greek populations to come up first, like Greek_Central, Greek_Thessaly, etc

    It is bizarre because it isn't like this a population lost to history. Greeks have been in the peninsula for thousands of years. Of course they have changed but I thought the continuity would be stronger, especially since foreign populations are coming up first
    It isn't. The ancient populations of Greece had considerably more ancestry which can today be modeled as Sardinian/West Med than any modern Greeks do, while modern Greeks have considerably higher Steppe.

    So what ends up happening is you can better model ancient Greek populations as some mixture of Sicilian or Jewish, and West Mediterranean, not because they were a mixture of Sicilians and Sardinians but because they did not have much Steppe.

    For what it is worth, the same thing occurs when you look at Bronze Age Sicily (Bell Beaker).

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    Glad to see those kits are back up on Gedmatch
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    Kit Number: M381564
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    Name: RISE516 Okunevo BA [2201-2036 BC]

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