View Poll Results: Which is the whitest Hispanic country?

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  • Chile

    11 26.19%
  • Puerto Rico

    3 7.14%
  • Cuba

    19 45.24%
  • Costa Rica

    2 4.76%
  • Colombia

    0 0%
  • Venezuela

    2 4.76%
  • Mexico

    5 11.90%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    Probably the difference between those centralamericans is that Nicaragua and Honduras are on average mestizo/indomestizo/tri-racial (basically mestizo but with two digits of SSA, between 12 to 16%), El Salvador is mestizo/indomestizo but Its SSA average is around 7/9% and normally not noticeable in traits.
    Finally Guatemala in a way could be similar to El Salvador but with far more pure mayas amerindians, while in El Salvador pure Pipil and Lencas are not a big number.
    El Salvador has less self reported amerindians(the lowest of central america and even lowest than Argentina) because the are only 25k self-reported amerindians of an population over 7 M. What happen is that amerindians(in fact arent pure) are more western than those from Guatemala (that could explain the difference of self reported amerindians in the census)but phenotypically their arent greatest difference between El Salvador and Guatemala(despite they are more harnizos and balanced mestizos in El Salvador and that pueblid phenotype should be more common in Guatemala's highlands) while euro difference between Guatemala and El Salvador are less than 12%, maybe 10%.
    And yes you are right. Nicaragua and Honduras have a balanced contribution in amerindian-european components. What make them very non-white are the istmid phenotype and general SSA contribution over 10%.But they are some what(35-43% euro, 16% SSA and the rest amerindian). But the problem is that both countries dont have regional studies, the most detailed studies are outdated and also have few examples(aparte de no estar desglosado en regiones) so maybe some regions have more indomestizos(pacific region of Nicaragua), others tri-racials and others more balanced mestizos and harnizos(for example Esteli and those places around)

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    Nadie sabe como son realmente Honduras y Nicaragua, y en menor medida El Salvador (aunque estos tienen algún estudio). De Guatemala y Panamá también se desconoce mucho, pero al menos tienen censos raciales y encuestas de auto-identificación que nos indican por donde van los tiros.

    Obviamente nadie se va a poner a hacer estudios de estos países por riesgo a perder sus vidas (excepto Panamá, dónde sí se podría hacer algo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostaRicaBall View Post
    El Salvador has less self reported amerindians(the lowest of central america and even lowest than Argentina) because the are only 25k self-reported amerindians of an population over 7 M. What happen is that amerindians(in fact arent pure) are more western than those from Guatemala (that could explain the difference of self reported amerindians in the census)but phenotypically their arent greatest difference between El Salvador and Guatemala(despite they are more harnizos and balanced mestizos in El Salvador and that pueblid phenotype should be more common in Guatemala's highlands) while euro difference between Guatemala and El Salvador are less than 12%, maybe 10%.
    And yes you are right. Nicaragua and Honduras have a balanced contribution in amerindian-european components. What make them very non-white are the istmid phenotype and general SSA contribution over 10%.But they are some what(35-43% euro, 16% SSA and the rest amerindian). But the problem is that both countries dont have regional studies, the most detailed studies are outdated and also have few examples(aparte de no estar desglosado en regiones) so maybe some regions have more indomestizos(pacific region of Nicaragua), others tri-racials and others more balanced mestizos and harnizos(for example Esteli and those places around)
    Excellent description.
    You improved a lot what I mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    Nadie sabe como son realmente Honduras y Nicaragua, y en menor medida El Salvador (aunque estos tienen algún estudio). De Guatemala y Panamá también se desconoce mucho, pero al menos tienen censos raciales y encuestas de auto-identificación que nos indican por donde van los tiros.

    Obviamente nadie se va a poner a hacer estudios de estos países por riesgo a perder sus vidas (excepto Panamá, dónde sí se podría hacer algo)
    Bueno, si es por la delincuencia en el caso de Nicaragua manejan índices muy bajos.
    El tema es que hay que ver si el nauseabundo régimen de Daniel Ortega dejara a gente de la ciencia trabajar al respecto algo que dudo sobremanera.
    Con sólo decir que si no me equivoco uno de los mejores estudios sobre la población nicaragüense se realizó en Costa Rica sobre los inmigrantes nicas allí, creo que lo dice todo....

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    I don't understand why some people is saying that is Chile when that country is probably no more than 60%-65% European compared to Cuba and Puerto Rico that are about 70% both. Cuba could easily be 40% white based on phenotype. I really doubt Chile is more white than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daven View Post
    I don't understand why some people is saying that is Chile when that country is probably no more than 60%-65% European compares Cuba and Puerto Rico are about 70%.
    Probably overall appearance and color. People tend to be fooled by this a lot.

    While less european, the average Chilean likely is far more depigmented and sharp featured than Puerto Rico or Cuba.

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    Chile is like 35% amerindian and that's quite a lot. And it's not like most Chileans don't have amerindian features LMAO.

    You are actually reminding me of the losers cherrypickers that used to post on here back in the day. They liked to spam the board with pictures of very light mestizos to make a point haha. I was so embarrassed myself back then because some of the European posters were truly believing that cuento that the average Latin American mestizo had light eyes and shit. Ay no que penita ajena me daba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daven View Post
    I don't understand why some people is saying that is Chile when that country is probably no more than 60%-65% European compared to Cuba and Puerto Rico that are about 70% both. Cuba could easily be 40% white based on phenotype. I really doubt Chile is more white than that.
    Because Chile has many pure/quasi pure whites regarding its european contribution, because these are usually light (basques, asturians, north castillians, germans, british, croatians; while in the caribbean islands canarians are very abundant), and because the sun radiation in Chile is milder than in the Caribbean and reinforces the lightness with a scarcer sun exposion than in the Caribbean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daven View Post
    Chile is like 35% amerindian and that's quite a lot. And it's not like most Chileans don't have amerindian features LMAO.
    They do. It's just that the average person in these kind of places would perceive it as less so.

    You are actually reminding me of the losers cherrypickers that used to post on here back in the day. They liked to spam the board with pictures of very light mestizos to make a point haha. I was so embarrassed myself back then because some of the European posters were truly believing that cuento that the average Latin American mestizo had light eyes and shit. Ay no que penita ajena me daba.
    You are bussing. I haven't posted a single pic here. I merely offered rationale to why people is inflating Chile here.

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