The genetic prehistory of the greater Caucasus

[Kelmendasi]

Religion too. Hellenic mythology is share many elements with Norse and Slavic paganism. Heroic poetry, ancestor worship, sky and thunder god, Dragon Slayer myth, etc.

The Hittite religion also had elements related to other IE religions that came from the steppe, for example the belief that a thunder god will battle a serpent. Makes me think if Anatolian actually came from the steppe rather than somewhere south of the Caucasus. Hopefully further tests in the future reach a conclusion.

[Ryuk]

Religion too. Hellenic mythology share many elements with Norse and Slavic paganism. Heroic poetry, ancestor worship, sky and thunder god, Dragon Slayer myth, etc.

Only dragon slayer myth has clear IE origin,and it is originally a snake slayer myth.
Others are common myths in all parts of the world.

[Ryuk]

The Hittite religion also had elements related to other IE religions that came from the steppe, for example the belief that a thunder god will battle a serpent. Makes me think if Anatolian actually came from the steppe rather than somewhere south of the Caucasus. Hopefully further tests in the future reach a conclusion.

I don't think the Hittites migrated from the Caucasus to Anatolia.As far as I know, ancient human remains in the Caucasus do not carry any steppe components.
I think the route of Hittite migration was the Balkans

[nightrider+]

The Hittite religion also had elements related to other IE religions that came from the steppe, for example the belief that a thunder god will battle a serpent. Makes me think if Anatolian actually came from the steppe rather than somewhere south of the Caucasus. Hopefully further tests in the future reach a conclusion.

Ra battled Apep too. Some things are perennial. Not everything comes from the steppe. It's not like we have any concrete evidence for the religion of Steppe people anyway.

[Kelmendasi]

I don't think the Hittites migrated from the Caucasus to Anatolia.As far as I know, ancient human remains in the Caucasus do not carry any steppe components.
I think the route of Hittite migration was the Balkans

Yes that is what I meant.They may have come from the Balkans, but ultimately they came/originate from the steppe.

[Kelmendasi]

Ra battled Apep too. Some things are perennial. Not everything comes from the steppe. It's not like we have any concrete evidence for the religion of Steppe people anyway.

The battle between a thunder god and a serpent only seems to be found among the religions of IE peoples and people who had contact with them(likely that they took this element). I don't think it's coincidental that all IE groups shared this common myth. The fact that only neighbouring groups also shared this myth seems to suggest that they got it through contact with IE peoples and adapted it to their pantheons.

[gıulıoımpa]

The battle between a thunder god and a serpent only seems to be found among the religions of IE peoples and people who had contact with them(likely that they took this element). I don't think it's coincidental that all IE groups shared this common myth. The fact that only neighbouring groups also shared this myth seems to suggest that they got it through contact with IE peoples and adapted it to their pantheons.

aslo the element of conflict between an "older" divinity and his spawn. it's everywhere. it was theorized that "victor" of the conflict the most important/ancestral IE god was what then became Zeus/Jupiter in greek/roman mithology


or even i think something like the myth of Twin Brothers as founders is a recurring in norse and roman mythology but not greek for example

[Token]

Only dragon slayer myth has clear IE origin,and it is originally a snake slayer myth.
Others are common myths in all parts of the world.

Not really.

[Token]

One of the distinctive features of the PIE dragon slayer thunder god was a red beard (see Indra, Perun, Perkuwnos, Donar). That feature is also found in Armenian mythology, even though the dragon slayer isn't the thunderer there (Vahagn).

[Kelmendasi]

Some of the Y-DNA assignments:
1. BU2001.A0101_Beily Ugol 2_North Caucasus - R1b-Y20993
2. GW1001.A0101_Goryachevodskiy 2_North Caucasus - R1b-Z2103
3. I1723_Goryachevodskiy 2_North Caucasus - R1b-L23
4. KBD001_Kabardinka_Late North Caucasus - R1b-Z2103
5. LYG001.A0101_Lysogorskaya 6_North Caucasus - R1b-Z2103
6. MK5009.A0101_Marinskaya 5_North Caucasus - R1b-Y20993
7. KDC001.A0101_Kudachurt 3823.5_MBA North Caucasus - J2b-L283
8. PG2001_Progress 2_Eneolithic Steppe - R1b-V1636
9. PG2004_Progress 2_Eneolithic Steppe - R1b-V1636
10. 12056_Unakozovskaya 6477.4_Eneolithic Caucasus - J2a-Y11200
11. VEK007_Velikent_Kura-Araxes - J1-Z1842
12. ARM002_Kaps_Kura-Araxes - G2b
13. I1635_Kalavan_Kura-Araxes - R1b-V1636
14. RK1001.C0101_Rasshevatskiy 1_Yamnaya Caucasus - R1b-Z2103
15. RK4002.B0101_Rasshevatskiy 4_Catacomb - R1b-Z2103
16. RK4001.A0101_Rasshevatskiy 4_Catacomb - R1b-Z2108
17. SA6003.B0101_Sharakhalsun 6_Catacomb - R1b-Z2103
18. SA6013.B0101_Sharakhalsun 6_Steppe Maykop Outlier - R1a-M459(YP1272?)
19. SA6010.A0101_Sharakhalsun 6_Yamnaya Caucasus - T-L206(Y8614?)
20. I6266_Klady 5200.0_Maykop - J2a-Y11200
21. I6268_Klady 5564.0_Maykop - J2a-Y11200
22. I2051_Marchenkova Gora D13 3260.0_Dolmen LBA - J2a-M410
23. MK5008.B0101_Marinskaya 5_Late Maykop - J1(Z1842?)
24. I1720_Baksanenok_Maykop - K(L?)
25. SA6004_Sharakhalsun 6_Steppe Maykop - Q-L933
26. NV3001_Nevinnomiskiy 3_Lola - Q-L717

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