English Anglo-Saxon vs Celtic DNA

[Gwydion]

What does the most recent data have to say in regards to the aged old question of how Celtic vs. Germanic England is? Going by Y-DNA paternal lineages, is England more Celtic or Anglo-Saxon? If we exclude I and R1a from the equation, which is more predominant in England, P312/L21/U106/DF27 vs. U106?

[Sikeliot]

More Celtic/native British but the east of England has more Germanic than the west.

[Bellbeaking]

More Celtic/native British but the east of England has more Germanic than the west.

Why stick to this simplistic dichotomy, the Bell beakers that came from the netherlands where somewhat Nordic in their % steppe DNA, this is population most of British ancestry is from. Celtic migrations possibly came later. It doesn't make any sense to say the British are Celtic.

[JohnSmith]

I am curious to how Keltic Nordids are related to Dinarics. They both look somewhat similar but live in different places generally.

[Dacul]

R1B-U106 peaks in the area where was the center of Hallstat Celts Culture.
So actually is possible that Saxons were rather Hallstat Celts mixed with Germanics.
And Angles were just the rulling class and elite warriors.
So England as genetics seems mixture of Hallstat Celts with Brittonic Celts mostly.

[Teucer]

Did the Vikings leave any noticeable influence?

If they did, it would also been in the east of England and Scotland. Maybe some of the Germanic is not solely Saxon?

[unknown user]

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....Y-DNA-projects

[unknown user]

R1B-U106 peaks in the area where was the center of Hallstat Celts Culture.
So actually is possible that Saxons were rather Hallstat Celts mixed with Germanics.
And Angles were just the rulling class and elite warriors.
So England as genetics seems mixture of Hallstat Celts with Brittonic Celts mostly.

Но кто сказал что у саксов был R-U106? Единственный извеcтный образец англосакса из северной Англии — I1

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10326

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But who said that the Saxons had R-U106? The only known example of Anglo-Saxon from northern England - I1

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10326

[Token]

Around 30% Germanic, the rest is mostly Celtic.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10408#s1
British population history has been shaped by a series of immigrations, including the early Anglo-Saxon migrations after 400 CE. It remains an open question how these events affected the genetic composition of the current British population. Here, we present whole-genome sequences from 10 individuals excavated close to Cambridge in the East of England, ranging from the late Iron Age to the middle Anglo-Saxon period. By analysing shared rare variants with hundreds of modern samples from Britain and Europe, we estimate that on average the contemporary East English population derives 38% of its ancestry from Anglo-Saxon migrations. We gain further insight with a new method, rarecoal, which infers population history and identifies fine-scale genetic ancestry from rare variants. Using rarecoal we find that the Anglo-Saxon samples are closely related to modern Dutch and Danish populations, while the Iron Age samples share ancestors with multiple Northern European populations including Britain.

[Creoda]

Around 30% Germanic, the rest is mostly Celtic.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10408#s1
British population history has been shaped by a series of immigrations, including the early Anglo-Saxon migrations after 400 CE. It remains an open question how these events affected the genetic composition of the current British population. Here, we present whole-genome sequences from 10 individuals excavated close to Cambridge in the East of England, ranging from the late Iron Age to the middle Anglo-Saxon period. By analysing shared rare variants with hundreds of modern samples from Britain and Europe, we estimate that on average the contemporary East English population derives 38% of its ancestry from Anglo-Saxon migrations. We gain further insight with a new method, rarecoal, which infers population history and identifies fine-scale genetic ancestry from rare variants. Using rarecoal we find that the Anglo-Saxon samples are closely related to modern Dutch and Danish populations, while the Iron Age samples share ancestors with multiple Northern European populations including Britain.

What makes you say 30% Germanic when your quote says 38% Anglo-Saxon on average for East England? (East England is part of the SE England cluster that makes up the majority of the English population in the POBI study). I believe the same paper showed that West Yorkshire has more of a Germanic affinity than the South East.