Should women who get abortions be punished?

[Moje ime]

They should be "forced" to if and only if it is medically safe to do so. If the woman and her pregnancy are healthy and she chooses to abort the child be cause she "does not want to" birth it then it is immoral and I do not condone it. Period. I have already explained this. I have already explained this.

I am relaxed. It is just that if you are going to say things, you should be prepared to explain them. It is good practice.

I'm little busy so I couldn't keep up with all questions.

Did you considered emotional trauma on let's say 15 year old girl who has to bear pregnancy through high school and with her angry parents? In the same time 15 year old "father" can move on like he's not guilty at all.

[Teutone]

Country	Abortion	Fertility rate
Ireland (Catholic)	Still mostly illegal	1.97
Italy (Catholic)	On demand up to 12 weeks	1.44
Belarus (Orthodox)	On demand up to 9 weeks	1.48
Kosovo (Muslim)	On demand up to 12 weeks	1.80
Israel (Jews only)	Effectively on demand up to 12 weeks	3.16

We will all witness how the Irish fertlity rate will go down.

Case of Israel the fetillty rate is coming from the ultra orthodox jews who would never do an abortion and you know that.

[Longbowman]

We will all witness how the Irish fertlity rate will go down.

Case of Israel the fetillty rate is coming from the ultra orthodox jews who would never do an abortion and you know that.

It isn't that high to begin with.

Yeah, Orthodox Jews are the core of the Jewish population, so?

[Teutone]

Your presumptions become personal with that questioning.

Two pages before this one you agreed with abortion in certain circumstances. Don't you think that fetus created by rape is the same as fetus created by love?

I said medical definition of it. Fetus is alive when it develops brain and heart. That gives to fetus something that we can call a free will so that fetus starts to kick and move inside of women. That is the moment when we can say it is alive and that is forth month of pregnancy.

Looks like you can't stay rational when taboo themes are discussed and that makes you weak.

Bulshit the ONLY way I agree with an abortion was if the mothers live is in risk, cause its another life that would be taken and I statet its a tough decision.

If a baby is created by rape it should still get the chance to live, noone is forcing the mother to keep it after birth.

[Teutone]

It isn't that high to begin with.

Yeah, Orthodox Jews are the core of the Jewish population, so?

Compared to other European nations with liberal abortion laws its pretty high

[Teutone]

For pathetic men who can't keep it in pants, little bit of medicine and how human fetus in second month looks like:



That is the moment when it gets first human-like shape and internal organs. And that is limit for legal abortion. Before that it is just bunch of meat like I already explained.

edit: bunch of meat from medical point of view

from personal point of view that gets little bit complicated (yeah emotions included) and on woman to decide about

All I see is a creation by god and human being, you sick person.

[Longbowman]

Compared to other European nations with liberal abortion laws its pretty high

Not high enough.

[idioteque]

I'm little busy so I couldn't keep up with all questions.

Did you considered emotional trauma on let's say 15 year old girl who has to bear pregnancy through high school and with her angry parents? In the same time 15 year old "father" can move on like he's not guilty at all.

I understand the trauma. It is very unfortunate but it is a consequence of sex. Are they married at 15?

[Teutone]

Not high enough.

And? You think by legalizing abortion it will improve or become worse? You know what will happen.

[Lucia]

We are steadily heading toward under-population, and birth rates are declining.

Right... We are actually rapidly heading towards 8 billion people. I would actually award women in countries like India who have an abortion.