Why do so many Poles hate being called "Eastern European"?

[Dandelion]

Poles are divided into Rethelites and Litvinites. One is pro-German and the other pro-Russian. Ironically Rethel speaks better Russian than Litvin, yet he's the pro-German one.

[Jana]

It was part of the same culture. Both areas were part of Polish culture.

It's not the case that Poles from Belarus are culturally Belarusian.

Tadeusz Kościuszko for example was a Pole from Belarus.

Polish culture there wasn't the same, or do you think German from Vienna and Hamburg have similar culture, or Italian from Palermo or Venice ?

There was never strong central European influence in Belarus, we can speak about north European rather.

Poland isn't proper Central European country just like Croatia (or Germany). It's southern parts belong more to this region than northern do.

[Peterski]

Polish culture there wasn't the same

Just like German culture is not the same in every region, but it is still German culture. Polish culture is Polish culture across the whole area. And lots of Poles from Latvia by the way are descended from Polonized Baltic Germans. I mentioned Władysław Anders and Emilia Plater both of whom were descended from Baltic Germans. Piłsudski was descended from Polonized Samogitian (ethnically Baltic) nobility.

[Ülev]

Polish culture there wasn't the same, or do you think German from Vienna and Hamburg have similar culture, or Italian from Palermo or Venice ?

There was never strong central European influence in Belarus, we can speak about north European rather.

Poland isn't proper Central European country just like Croatia (or Germany). It's southern parts belong more to this region than northern do.

read this: https://euroradio.fm/en/poles-put-pr...uszko-monument

[Jana]

Just like German culture is not the same in every region. But it is still German culture.

And lots of Poles from Latvia by the way are descended from Polonized Baltic Germans.

This sounds like nationalist trying to homogenize his culture rather than reality, sory

Baltic Germans are north Europeans, not central Europeans.

Go to Gdansk and compare it to Rostock, Riga and other Hanesatic cities and you will see much more similarities than to Prague or Budapest. Krakow or Lviv are another story.

[Peterski]

Baltic Germans are north Europeans, not central Europeans.

I never claimed that Poland is a central European country.

We are clearly in-between Baltic Europe and Central Europe.

[Jana]

I never claimed that Poland is a central European country.

We are clearly in-between Baltic Europe and Central Europe.

Agree, just like we are in-between central Europe and Balkans

[Ülev]

nick with German letter "ü" looks lovely in this topic

[Peterski]

The Inquiry even recommended that Poland and Lithuania should unite again after WW1:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...k-borders-1919

Unfortunately modern Lithuanian nationalism is built on Pre-1385 Lithuanian-identity. Lithuanian nationalists consider Jogaila as a traitor and they want to identify with Pagan times (even though they didn't convert back to Paganism), they don't associate with common Polish-Lithuanian history.

[Dragoon]

No problem being called Eastern Europe.

I consider Russia as part of European civilization, so I don't think that our "mission" is to "defend Europe from Russia". But this narrative is common, "Russian threat" is used to frighten people.

Russia is used in fairy tales for adult Westerners just like Baba Yaga in fairy tales for children.

Many Poles also fall for this "Russia is the biggest threat" narrative. I personally think that Russia is no threat to Poland anymore. It is a threat to Ukraine, Belarus and Baltic states, but not Poland.

Agreed completely. Id say only Ukraine and Baltics have any claim in Europe to be worried about Russia.

Im more concerned with Western Europe and American: Liberal and New Left cultural infection of Poland. Also neocon values are not exactly Gentile or Catholic. They favor Israel and US "democracy" spreading.

A slow infection that gets people over time which changed West in just a few decades. No vaccine has yet been found unless human carries defense.

The West is no longer Christian or anything resembling of old. Completely different from past.