Orbán supports Macedonia's retention of it's name

[Coolguy1]

Viktor Orban, the fat head loser from central Europe thinks his opinion on this issue actually means something. History cannot be changed, and these Bulgars have nothing to do with Macedonia, neither ethnically or geographically.

Albanians will tear up your fake state soon, its only a matter of time.

[Crn Volk]

Viktor Orban, the fat head loser from central Europe thinks his opinion on this issue actually means something. History cannot be changed, and these Bulgars have nothing to do with Macedonia, neither ethnically or geographically.

Albanians will tear up your fake state soon, its only a matter of time.

Why do you rely on Albanians? Maybe we'll ally with Albanians and Bulgarians and invade you....

[Aspar]

Viktor Orban, the fat head loser from central Europe thinks his opinion on this issue actually means something. History cannot be changed, and these Bulgars have nothing to do with Macedonia, neither ethnically or geographically.

Albanians will tear up your fake state soon, its only a matter of time.

Than who has anything to do with Macedonia?
Greeks only?
Just because they speak Greek?
How do we define the relationship with Macedonia?
Is it only on cultural level or should we take another factors as well in account?
Not to mention that the Greek Macedonians and the Slavic Macedonians are genetically undistinguishable(at least those Slavic Macedonians with roots from Greek Macedonia or the southern parts of today's Rep. Of Macedonia).
Also do you know how many Greek speaking people were assimilated after they moved in our country when the Communists lost in Greece?
Or how many Aromanians are assimilated in our ethnos as well?
For example, I already knew about some Aromanian heritage of mine, but I didn't know that my paternal line is also of Aromanian origin...
All my close matches are Aromanians.
The point I am trying to say is that doesn't matter the language we are speaking, we are all Macedonians because we are born in Macedonia and have Macedonian blood.
The cultural divide is only a reflection of the past, as the Bulgarian Empire and the Byzantine Empire were exchanging rule in Macedonia, and both have applied assimilatory politics that were ongoing even until the last century when many Slavic speaking Macedonians in Greece, were prohibited of speaking their own language!

[Bosniensis]

Victor Orban a Hun

Building a Wall in Europe (got that DNA feat from his Mongol & Chinese ancestors)

Why would he intercede on Macedonian behalf?

That won't help Macedonians to retain their name for sure.

Orban is a fake Right Wing politician.

[Sturmgewehr]

I see albanian dinarics , few Bulgarians and Gypsies in the centre

Infiltrated Greek Agents, the only explanation there could be, you cannot deny that.

[Livin]

Both countries genetically and culturally have nothing to do with ancient macedonia.

Greece have the language and thats why its more close.

But genetically the majority of locals in macedonia have slavic admixture as fuck.

[paradox]

Than who has anything to do with Macedonia?
Greeks only?
Just because they speak Greek?
How do we define the relationship with Macedonia?
Is it only on cultural level or should we take another factors as well in account?
Not to mention that the Greek Macedonians and the Slavic Macedonians are genetically undistinguishable(at least those Slavic Macedonians with roots from Greek Macedonia or the southern parts of today's Rep. Of Macedonia).
Also do you know how many Greek speaking people were assimilated after they moved in our country when the Communists lost in Greece?
Or how many Aromanians are assimilated in our ethnos as well?
For example, I already knew about some Aromanian heritage of mine, but I didn't know that my paternal line is also of Aromanian origin...
All my close matches are Aromanians.
The point I am trying to say is that doesn't matter the language we are speaking, we are all Macedonians because we are born in Macedonia and have Macedonian blood.
The cultural divide is only a reflection of the past, as the Bulgarian Empire and the Byzantine Empire were exchanging rule in Macedonia, and both have applied assimilatory politics that were ongoing even until the last century when many Slavic speaking Macedonians in Greece, were prohibited of speaking their own language!

Well said!

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[Albobalboa]

Than who has anything to do with Macedonia?
Greeks only?
Just because they speak Greek?
How do we define the relationship with Macedonia?
Is it only on cultural level or should we take another factors as well in account?
Not to mention that the Greek Macedonians and the Slavic Macedonians are genetically undistinguishable(at least those Slavic Macedonians with roots from Greek Macedonia or the southern parts of today's Rep. Of Macedonia).
Also do you know how many Greek speaking people were assimilated after they moved in our country when the Communists lost in Greece?
Or how many Aromanians are assimilated in our ethnos as well?
For example, I already knew about some Aromanian heritage of mine, but I didn't know that my paternal line is also of Aromanian origin...
All my close matches are Aromanians.
The point I am trying to say is that doesn't matter the language we are speaking, we are all Macedonians because we are born in Macedonia and have Macedonian blood.
The cultural divide is only a reflection of the past, as the Bulgarian Empire and the Byzantine Empire were exchanging rule in Macedonia, and both have applied assimilatory politics that were ongoing even until the last century when many Slavic speaking Macedonians in Greece, were prohibited of speaking their own language!

"We are all Macedonians" - Why? What is the point of keeping this identity alive amongst you Slavs? I don't get why it's so important to defend this. Especially since you are "Aromanian" (Latin speaking native?) what is the end-goal? There's nothing you can do with 2 million which is so multicultural.

Macedonia has to either join Bulgaria or Kosovo, or divide so each piece can join another country. I don't say that because I dislike Macedonia, but to me Macedonia in its current state is just a perfect buffer for Greeks and Serbs to release pressure from what otherwise would be a bigger problem with bigger Albanians/Bulgarians.

Bulgaria with Macedonian part would 100% start putting pressure on Greek regions which are slavic influenced. Kosovo with Macedonian part would do the same but to Serbia. Balkans would get much more exciting without Macedonia, I'm sorry. Plus your ancestors would thank you, because Bulgaria in that case could have serious ability to avenge them.

[Aspar]

"We are all Macedonians" - Why? What is the point of keeping this identity alive amongst you Slavs? I don't get why it's so important to defend this. Especially since you are "Aromanian" (Latin speaking native?) what is the end-goal? There's nothing you can do with 2 million which is so multicultural.

Macedonia has to either join Bulgaria or Kosovo, or divide so each piece can join another country. I don't say that because I dislike Macedonia, but to me Macedonia in its current state is just a perfect buffer for Greeks and Serbs to release pressure from what otherwise would be a bigger problem with bigger Albanians/Bulgarians.

Bulgaria with Macedonian part would 100% start putting pressure on Greek regions which are slavic influenced. Kosovo with Macedonian part would do the same but to Serbia. Balkans would get much more exciting without Macedonia, I'm sorry. Plus your ancestors would thank you, because Bulgaria in that case could have serious ability to avenge them.

Maybe because we are so multicultural as you say, that's why people don't see them with anything else rather than Macedonian.
There is a need to distinguish themselves of all the others.
But that doesn't mean that they felt need all of a sudden to start calling themselves Macedonians.
Since a child, I was curious about the claim of many people, that we are just an invented nation and that Tito has invented us in 1945...
So I asked my grandpa, may he rest in peace, how were his father and grandfather calling themselves.
He said Macedonians, that's how they called themselves.
They didn't know any identity other then Macedonian.
Then I asked him, but how are we Macedonians when we speak a Slavic language?
Then he took me in the local church and showed me the solar symbol of the ancient Macedonians, the solar sun, paint on the entrance of the church.
Mind you, the church was built in 1856 and was the only building left in the village who was set in flames during world war 2, by the Bulgarians.
Only recently the people started building villas for vacation.
So, it was obvious to me, that we were not that recent invention as some people were trying to portray us.

Don't get me wrong, I am on the same page with you and I think that small states or Balkanisation is not the right path.
I believe in united Balkan, but not at the expense of our identity.

By the way, I am not an Aromanian as I don't speak the language.
I just said that I have distant Aromanian heritage.

[MegaArgus1]

The citizens of the Republic of Macedonia who hold Macedonian citizenship are Macedonians.
When the name change we will change our identity. We will become Vardarians, Ilindenians, Krushevcani, Gorni, Dolni, Sredni, Nikakvi