What lies beneath England's allegiances and rivalries?

**Graham** · 06-05-2018, 09:22 AM

What lies beneath England's allegiances and rivalries?
5 June 2018, BBC NEWS

Beneath the veneer of national identity, England is an elaborate tapestry of allegiances and rivalries.

For centuries, bureaucrats have drawn lines on the map without understanding the invisible ley lines of belonging that criss-cross the English countryside. There are deep loyalties to ancient counties, proud cities and towns, even legendary kingdoms.

The survey for The English Question, the largest and most comprehensive of its kind ever conducted, reveals something of these hidden ties and bonds.

The English counties, some with stories that predate England itself, are a strong source of identity for roughly half the population.

more.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44321409

**Graham** · 06-05-2018, 09:41 AM

The article says that a strong Yorkshire, Lancaster identity remains and I read this helped inspire some of Game of thrones according to its author. Both Have a strong period in history that is well known in Britain of course.

Accents and dialects will probably not die out in those sorts of areas if people still take some sort of local pride.

Cumbria and Cornwall get a mention too. As does Newcastle, knowing Newcastle. They do see them self in some sort of bubble away from the South.

**Neon Knight** · 06-06-2018, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Graham

The article says that a strong Yorkshire, Lancaster identity remains and I read this helped inspire some of Game of thrones according to its author. Both Have a strong period in history that is well known in Britain of course.

Accents and dialects will probably not die out in those sorts of areas if people still take some sort of local pride.

Cumbria and Cornwall get a mention too. As does Newcastle, knowing Newcastle. They do see them self in some sort of bubble away from the South.

Lancashire. Lancaster is the capital of Lancashire.

**Graham** · 06-06-2018, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Neon Knight

Lancashire. Lancaster is the capital of Lancashire.

That's what I get for posting quickly. I know. Anyway, any comments?

**Marinus** · 06-06-2018, 08:32 PM

All I know is, damn those Cambridge bastards.

**Neon Knight** · 06-06-2018, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Graham

That's what I get for posting quickly. I know. Anyway, any comments?

The English counties, some with stories that predate England itself, are a strong source of identity for roughly half the population.

I'm surprised that figure is only 50%. I assumed that all the English counties had fairly strong identities, perhaps excepting Middlesex since it has been overshadowed by London.

**Neon Knight** · 06-06-2018, 08:44 PM

What is the case with the Scottish counties?

**♥ Lily ♥** · 08-31-2018, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Graham

The article says that a strong Yorkshire, Lancaster identity remains and I read this helped inspire some of Game of thrones according to its author. Both Have a strong period in history that is well known in Britain of course.

Accents and dialects will probably not die out in those sorts of areas if people still take some sort of local pride.

Cumbria and Cornwall get a mention too. As does Newcastle, knowing Newcastle. They do see them self in some sort of bubble away from the South.

The Lancashire and Yorkshire rivalries led to the historic Wars of the Roses which inspired the Game of Thrones.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...s-Of-The-Roses