Useless Wars

[ChristianMed]

Wars that had the least desirable outcome for both sides?

[zhaoyun]

The Iraq war.

Obviously for Saddam, he was killed.

For the US, trillions of dollars were wasted, a formerly secular government was overthrown and the territory became a breeding ground for extremists, and Iran filled the power vacuum in the country which remains the case today.

[ChristianMed]

Ah that is a good point never thought of the war in that way, Thanks.

[TEUTORIGOS]

I think it is retarded for America to invade countries to ostensibly install democracies ( I define WASP from Ulster, to Scotland to England):

Only Anglo-Saxon countries can do democracy. The natural state of human society is despotism. If you tally up all the human lives that have ever been lived on this planet under organized systems of government, no more than five per cent were lived under consensual systems. Even to get up to five per cent, you have to include places like ancient Athens and Tudor England, which wouldn’t pass muster as “democratic” by modern standards. In the last couple of centuries, practically all consensual systems have been Anglo-Saxon. Other cultures can fake it for a few decades, as France, Germany, and Japan are currently doing, but their hearts aren’t really in it and they will swoon gratefully into the arms of a fascist dictator when one comes along.

[ChristianMed]

Just read what you wrote that is some heavy stuff bro, but you are right on many of the points sadly. Thanks for the reply brother.

[StonyArabia]

The Iraq war.

Obviously for Saddam, he was killed.

For the US, trillions of dollars were wasted, a formerly secular government was overthrown and the territory became a breeding ground for extremists, and Iran filled the power vacuum in the country which remains the case today.

One of your best post on here. To be honest there was a lot of black propaganda against Saddam and the regime in general. Saddam was not only threat to Israel, but also was threat to American interest in the region. Saddam wanted to annex all of the Arabian peninsula, something that will be against American interest in the region, due to oil, and also it would become powerful nation. Plus Saddam always supported the Palestinian cause and was the only leader that was not afraid of Israel or any nation for that matter.

Iran clearly was allied with the U.S in that invasion. The allies of the U.S or its proxies were backstabbed by them was quite funny to see, and how they also turned on the U.S for that matter.

Before the Iraq war, women rights and literacy were about the same as men, best universities and hospitals in the Middle East. Very progressive and modernizing country, but this legacy was slowed down thanks to Iran which was continually harassing Iraq, which basically lead to Iraq into that useless war. Not to mention Kuwait annexation and then America's imposed sanctions.

That war made the world more dangerous and it's in part why the Syrian civil war occurred. The post 2003 Iraqi leadership has been true neo-colonial imposed regime, they steal from the nation's treasury and they invest it in the British and American economies. Not to mention many of them are dual citizens of those nations. These scum never created or built a school or roads. These scum keep using the same buildings and roads from the Saddam era.

[Livin]

Iraq war and Vietnam definetly.

But to be honest I supported USA on Vietnam war because I hate commies.

[Livin]

I think it is retarded for America to invade countries to ostensibly install democracies ( I define WASP from Ulster, to Scotland to England):

Only Anglo-Saxon countries can do democracy. The natural state of human society is despotism. If you tally up all the human lives that have ever been lived on this planet under organized systems of government, no more than five per cent were lived under consensual systems. Even to get up to five per cent, you have to include places like ancient Athens and Tudor England, which wouldn’t pass muster as “democratic” by modern standards. In the last couple of centuries, practically all consensual systems have been Anglo-Saxon. Other cultures can fake it for a few decades, as France, Germany, and Japan are currently doing, but their hearts aren’t really in it and they will swoon gratefully into the arms of a fascist dictator when one comes along.

Look the democracy index.

Germany is far away from your country.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

[Anthony PV]

Iraq war and Vietnam definetly.

But to be honest I supported USA on Vietnam war because I hate commies.

Commies or not, the US had no business in Vietnam, period.

[Livin]

Commies or not, the US had no business in Vietnam, period.

That’s true.

They pretend the serif of the planet...!

There are also many useles wars that US made IMO.

Afghanistan,gulf war,bombing Yugoslavia etc.