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So called "Proto-Europid" would be linked to I haplogroups if you were to correlate Ydna with phenotype
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Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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Most "I haplogroup lands" are usually either Nordid or Dinarid.Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
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And? It's proven to be a Paleolithic Ydna in Europe. Anyways this is BS, you can't link haplogroups to phenotypes which are pseudo-science anyways
23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results
MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe
Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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I also guess the correlation between ancestry and phenotype is not so high.
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Rootsi et al. (2012) found that the geographic origin of haplogroup G locates around eastern Anatolia, Armenia or western Iran. Haplogroup G is a Middle Eastern haplogroup which spread to Europe during the Neolithic. G1 reached Kazakhstan around 20,000 BP, where it is primarily found among the Madjar and Argyn tribes (87% and 71%). North Ossetians (74%) may exhibit the physical characteristics of haplogroup G which originated in the Near East.
We estimate that the geographic origin of hg G plausibly locates somewhere nearby eastern Anatolia, Armenia or western Iran. The general frequency pattern of hg G overall (Figure 2a) shows that the spread of hg G extends over an area from southern Europe to the Near/Middle East and the Caucasus, but then decreases rapidly toward southern and Central Asia.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3499744/
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G is typical basal eurasian type of Y, that's why you find (or did find it) both in early farmers and around Caucasus, but the splits between the G's is quite old and they had different influences from there (some more WHG, some more ANE)
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What the hell is "proto-europid"? I have seen this term used only by Butlerking. It's nonsense.
Turanid is the mix of Gobid + Iranid + Baltid.
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It's completely made up
23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results
MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe
Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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