Portuguese Gedmatch Result

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 08-12-2018, 10:00 PM

É tranquilo postares os teus resultados, desde que não metas o número do teu kit ninguém te irá conseguir rastrear se for esse o problema.

Podes sempre gravar os resultados num ficheiro Word ou NotePad ou algo do género e fazer upload para algum host.

https://wetransfer.com

Depois é só enviares-me o link através de rep comment.

**Hyoga7** · 08-13-2018, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Viriato

É tranquilo postares os teus resultados, desde que não metas o número do teu kit ninguém te irá conseguir rastrear se for esse o problema.

Podes sempre gravar os resultados num ficheiro Word ou NotePad ou algo do género e fazer upload para algum host.

https://wetransfer.com

Depois é só enviares-me o link através de rep comment.

Aí vai:
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/bd3...3111348/769a25

Obrigado

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 08-13-2018, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Hyoga7

Aí vai:

Obrigado

**Hyoga7** · 08-13-2018, 11:33 AM

That was like Flash!!

As for the first diagram, Portuguese on the mouche!

As for the map, I am sorry, but could you explain better the numbers and the colors that appear in the countries?

Muito obrigado!

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 08-13-2018, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Hyoga7

That was like Flash!!

As for the first diagram, Portuguese on the mouche!

As for the map, I am sorry, but could you explain better the numbers and the colors that appear in the countries?

Muito obrigado!

You're textbook Portuguese.

The Eurogenes K36 similarity tool map tells you to which samples from each European region you share more affinity with (the higher the number, the more similarity you have). In your case it seems to be with the Balearic Islands and Southeast France\Northwest Italy, followed by close proximity to most of Iberia, Central France and North Italy. Nothing unusual for a Portuguese, you are within the range.

**Nico Nobrix** · 07-08-2019, 10:56 PM

Does this sample have direct negroid admixture or is the 3% from another source?

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
North_Atlantic39.72
West_Med23.70
East_Med15.21
Baltic9.29
Red_Sea3.52
Sub-Saharan3.00
Northeast_African2.56
East_Asian2.14

Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.226476
2 Portuguese @ 4.798917
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.035123
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.686357
5 Spanish_Valencia @ 6.325444
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.347419
7 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.464032
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.091851
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.482277
10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.989161
11 Spanish_Aragon @ 9.168781
12 Southwest_French @ 11.711581
13 North_Italian @ 12.381323
14 French @ 12.483251
15 Tuscan @ 18.221422
16 South_Dutch @ 19.196756
17 West_German @ 19.286997
18 French_Basque @ 22.336725
19 Southeast_English @ 23.581585
20 Southwest_English @ 24.250553

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.220566

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Tunisian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.033851

**Adamm** · 07-09-2019, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Nico Nobrix

Does this sample have direct negroid admixture or is the 3% from another source?

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
North_Atlantic39.72
West_Med23.70
East_Med15.21
Baltic9.29
Red_Sea3.52
Sub-Saharan3.00
Northeast_African2.56
East_Asian2.14

Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.226476
2 Portuguese @ 4.798917
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.035123
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.686357
5 Spanish_Valencia @ 6.325444
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.347419
7 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.464032
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.091851
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.482277
10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.989161
11 Spanish_Aragon @ 9.168781
12 Southwest_French @ 11.711581
13 North_Italian @ 12.381323
14 French @ 12.483251
15 Tuscan @ 18.221422
16 South_Dutch @ 19.196756
17 West_German @ 19.286997
18 French_Basque @ 22.336725
19 Southeast_English @ 23.581585
20 Southwest_English @ 24.250553

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.220566

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Tunisian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.033851

Pretty high for a portugese, i'm fully Moroccan and i get 6% which is normal for Moroccans consedering the Iberomaurusian connection.

**~~Adamastor~~** · 09-26-2019, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Nico Nobrix

Does this sample have direct negroid admixture or is the 3% from another source?

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
North_Atlantic39.72
West_Med23.70
East_Med15.21
Baltic9.29
Red_Sea3.52
Sub-Saharan3.00
Northeast_African2.56
East_Asian2.14

Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.226476
2 Portuguese @ 4.798917
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.035123
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.686357
5 Spanish_Valencia @ 6.325444
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.347419
7 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.464032
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.091851
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.482277
10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.989161
11 Spanish_Aragon @ 9.168781
12 Southwest_French @ 11.711581
13 North_Italian @ 12.381323
14 French @ 12.483251
15 Tuscan @ 18.221422
16 South_Dutch @ 19.196756
17 West_German @ 19.286997
18 French_Basque @ 22.336725
19 Southeast_English @ 23.581585
20 Southwest_English @ 24.250553

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.220566

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Tunisian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.033851

Some Portuguese and many other Iberians score Sub-Saharan and Northeast African (some can have even 5% of the two combined) on GEDmatch. It seems the ''Iberian'' sample includes partially some ancient type of DNA with affinity to SSA that is read as SSA (but it seems Northeast African is not purely SSA).

I realized that seeing Brazilian kits. Most Brazilians with Portuguese ancestry who scored any proportion of SSA on commercial tests like 23andme and MyHeritage generally got much more Sub-Saharan in GEDmatch.

I see guys who scored 4% or 5% SSA having their percentages almost doubled. It's probably because the tests only go back around 500 years so the additional component GEDmatch was reading as increased SSA was actually hidden in the ''Iberian'' component.

**Nico Nobrix** · 11-21-2019, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by Böri

Slave trade. That's not 10% average though. That's low. Portugal was first maritime-based colonial empire. It was world power back in 15th century despite having irrelevant size in Europe. Beside, Latin Catholics have more of assimilationist policies with their subjects, incl. mixing, compared to Anglo-Protestants who tended to segregate themselves. That's what you see today in modern American continent, between north and South.
French are culturally half-way between north and south Europe, they didn't mix with SSA but Maghrebis in their case.

Thats actually not true,

Spanish and Portuguese are half Northern Europe and Half Southern. French are 65% Northern and 35% Southern. The average regions of Spain + Portugal have 50% North Atlantic/Baltic combination and the other 50% is Mediterranean

**Nico Nobrix** · 11-21-2019, 05:34 AM

That is true. I noticed on 23 and me, it has me at 1.5& SSA, so to see another 1.5% on GED match gives me the assumption that 1.5% SSA is ancient, and my other 1.5% is probably within the last 200 years